From: bobduff@world.std.com (Robert A Duff)
Subject: Re: Real OO (was Choice of OO primitives in Ada95)
Date: 1996/02/23
Date: 1996-02-23T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Dn95o4.KnG@world.std.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4git9e$cqi@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov
In article <4git9e$cqi@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>,
Matt Kennel <kennel@msr.epm.ornl.gov> wrote:
>Um maaaaybe, but 'once functions' do what they do with no fuss and with
>very clear semantics, without having to define an "elaboration" notion for
>packages.
>
>I'm not sure that's a "kludge" compared to the complexity of package
>initialization in Ada.
I'd say both mechanisms leave something to be desired.
>I think it *is* quite fair to say that Eiffel is more object-oriented---ok
>more oriented-around-objects than Ada 95: it's the idee' fixe for Eiffel.
Yes, of course Eiffel is more object oriented than Ada. (Not sure why
you add "-around-objects".) This is because Ada has many features that
are not object-oriented at all. There's no support, for example, for
polymorphic operations on tasks or arrays. But this has nothing to do
with the package-vs-class issue. The features of Ada that *do* support
OOP are just as OOP as anything else.
>This doesn't prove 'prima facie' superiority, though I tend to like
>Eiffel better. (I've never been convinced about kludges to handle the
>'multiple withing' problem).
What is the "multiple withing" problem?
- Bob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~1996-02-23 0:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1996-02-22 0:00 Real OO (was Choice of OO primitives in Ada95) Jean-Pierre Rosen
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Matt Kennel
1996-02-23 0:00 ` Robert A Duff [this message]
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Valery Croizier
1996-02-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Spencer Allain
1996-02-23 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
[not found] <Do7uyC.4K2@world.std.com>
1996-03-15 0:00 ` Don Harrison
[not found] <Do7unJ.1sq@world.std.com>
1996-03-15 0:00 ` Don Harrison
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1996-02-20 0:00 Choice of OO primitives in Ada95 Jon S Anthony
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Real OO (was Choice of OO primitives in Ada95) Don Harrison
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-02-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-02-23 0:00 ` Gene Ouye
1996-02-26 0:00 ` James O'Connor
1996-02-26 0:00 ` Gene Ouye
1996-02-24 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-02-26 0:00 ` Don Harrison
1996-02-26 0:00 ` Matthew B. Kennel
1996-02-24 0:00 ` Valery Croizier
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