From: "nicolas" <n.brunot@cadwin.com>
Subject: Re: Java portability
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 08:12:19 GMT
Date: 2001-07-30T08:12:19+00:00 [thread overview]
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"Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <ve3wwg@home.com> a �crit dans le message news:
3B619A6D.5DD6E782@home.com...
> I'd like to offer a slightly different "analogy" :
>
> _flamesuit on_
>
> The shopper looks at the Ada car, and notices that it has seatbelts and
> of course 4 doors on it. The programmer says, but I don't want to be
> restrained from accessing the outdoors -- I go through drive-throughs
> a lot..
>
> The shopper than goes down the street and settles on the C++ car
> which does not have the restrictive seat belts, and of course,
> _NO_ doors to get in the way ;-) The Java car has seatbelts, but
> no doors...
>
> _flamesuit off_
>
I wouldn't see good and easy to use debuggers, standard libraries, GUI, IDE
coming with the compiler, etc ...
as tools going against safety concerns ....
Good luck if you want to convince Java or C++ programmers ... It could be a
lot of fun, but I'm not sure they will even listen to you.
The point is that, whatever good is the language, I dont see how Ada could
justify not to provide elementary stuff expected by almost every programmer.
There is no safety concern about that.
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2001-07-20 16:50 An Ada IDE and discussions Beard, Frank
2001-07-20 19:19 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-23 8:26 ` nicolas
2001-07-23 8:53 ` Java portability (was: An Ada IDE and discussions) Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-07-23 9:32 ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-23 11:26 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-07-24 18:59 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-25 8:40 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-07-25 10:23 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-07-25 20:50 ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-26 8:07 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-07-23 9:48 ` nicolas
2001-07-23 11:23 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-07-23 12:07 ` nicolas
2001-07-23 13:57 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-07-23 16:55 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-24 9:26 ` nicolas
2001-07-24 12:19 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-24 13:10 ` nicolas
2001-07-24 20:30 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-25 7:56 ` nicolas
2001-07-26 13:20 ` Java portability Georg Bauhaus
2001-07-26 15:13 ` nicolas
2001-07-27 9:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-07-27 10:22 ` nicolas
2001-07-27 14:17 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-27 16:44 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-27 17:13 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-27 20:09 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-27 20:12 ` Straight Jackets Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-30 8:12 ` nicolas [this message]
2001-07-31 4:40 ` Proving Correctness (was Java Portability) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-31 8:12 ` nicolas
2001-07-31 13:13 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-31 14:40 ` nicolas
2001-08-02 9:52 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-02 10:45 ` nicolas
2001-08-02 13:30 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 14:30 ` nicolas
2001-08-02 15:49 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 18:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-02 20:27 ` Wes Groleau
2001-08-05 2:40 ` rob
2001-08-05 10:15 ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-02 8:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-02 10:02 ` nicolas
2001-08-02 13:26 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2001-08-02 14:18 ` nicolas
2001-08-02 21:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-03 8:12 ` nicolas
2001-08-03 13:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-03 13:59 ` nicolas
2001-08-03 13:51 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03 14:54 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-03 15:16 ` nicolas
2001-08-03 17:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-06 8:52 ` nicolas
2001-08-06 9:39 ` Mike
2001-08-06 11:37 ` nicolas
2001-08-06 13:24 ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-06 14:30 ` nicolas
2001-08-06 15:38 ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-06 16:45 ` Stephen Leake
2001-08-07 0:14 ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-07 7:18 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-08-07 17:43 ` Stephen Leake
2001-08-07 18:07 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08 10:15 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-08-07 8:06 ` nicolas
2001-08-07 10:33 ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-07 11:12 ` nicolas
2001-08-07 8:44 ` nicolas
2001-08-07 22:12 ` Larry Elmore
2001-08-07 22:54 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08 7:45 ` nicolas
2001-08-11 23:17 ` Larry Elmore
2001-08-13 13:29 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08 8:01 ` nicolas
2001-08-11 23:49 ` Larry Elmore
2001-08-13 13:51 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08 10:22 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-08-08 13:46 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08 14:25 ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-08-08 15:28 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08 18:03 ` tmoran
2001-08-09 12:29 ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-08-09 16:21 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-09 7:12 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-08-11 23:57 ` Larry Elmore
2001-08-06 14:43 ` nicolas
2001-08-06 15:37 ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-06 15:45 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-07 7:20 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-08-06 23:14 ` The pace of change (was Proving Correctness (was Java Portability)) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 17:44 ` Proving Correctness (was Java Portability) Stefan Skoglund
2001-08-06 15:41 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-06 13:14 ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-06 14:16 ` nicolas
2001-08-06 15:45 ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-06 16:14 ` nicolas
2001-08-06 16:41 ` Stephen Leake
2001-08-07 8:11 ` nicolas
2001-08-07 10:47 ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-07 11:31 ` nicolas
2001-08-07 11:50 ` nicolas
2001-08-07 14:08 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-07 19:19 ` David Starner
2001-08-07 20:56 ` tmoran
2001-08-07 22:32 ` Ed Falis
2001-08-09 21:20 ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-07 22:31 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08 5:24 ` David Starner
2001-08-08 14:34 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08 18:03 ` tmoran
2001-08-09 4:31 ` David Starner
2001-08-09 20:56 ` David Starner
2001-08-09 21:00 ` David Starner
2001-08-08 12:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-08 14:54 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08 19:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-08 19:49 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-09 12:31 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-09 17:34 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-10 4:29 ` Simon Wright
2001-08-13 14:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-13 14:26 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-14 11:58 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-13 19:38 ` Simon Wright
2001-08-07 20:56 ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-07 22:43 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-05 15:33 ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-06 16:37 ` Stephen Leake
2001-08-06 17:44 ` tmoran
2001-08-07 8:31 ` nicolas
2001-08-07 9:06 ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-08-07 9:20 ` nicolas
2001-08-07 10:01 ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-08-07 10:29 ` nicolas
2001-08-07 10:54 ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-08-07 11:28 ` nicolas
2001-08-07 23:02 ` Larry Elmore
2001-08-08 8:37 ` nicolas
2001-08-12 0:22 ` Larry Elmore
2001-08-07 21:52 ` Ada Components " Lao Xiao Hai
2001-08-08 17:09 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-08-08 10:50 ` More Uniform Ada libraries (was: Proving Correctness) Larry Kilgallen
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2001-08-08 12:03 ` nicolas
2001-08-08 12:11 ` Larry Kilgallen
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2001-08-08 13:03 ` nicolas
2001-08-08 15:05 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08 15:51 ` nicolas
2001-08-08 18:03 ` tmoran
2001-08-08 19:16 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08 21:36 ` Stephen Leake
2001-08-09 7:47 ` nicolas
2001-08-10 15:44 ` Stephen Leake
2001-09-04 4:32 ` brentcarnellis
2001-09-04 4:36 ` Ed Falis
2001-09-05 0:01 ` Jeff Creem
2001-09-05 4:13 ` brentcarnellis
2001-09-05 13:13 ` Samuel T. Harris
2001-09-06 5:08 ` brentcarnellis
2001-09-06 13:29 ` Samuel T. Harris
2001-09-07 3:56 ` brentcarnellis
2001-09-07 12:45 ` Samuel T. Harris
2001-08-07 12:09 ` Proving Correctness (was Java Portability) Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-06 16:12 ` Darren New
2001-08-07 12:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-07 12:26 ` nicolas
2001-08-07 12:37 ` nicolas
[not found] ` <9kelv1$riq$ <3B72CC18.F07195D1@ebox.tninet.se>
2001-08-12 6:34 ` Simon Wright
2001-08-04 4:14 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-03 13:43 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03 14:15 ` nicolas
2001-08-04 22:31 ` AG
2001-08-06 8:19 ` nicolas
2001-08-06 15:56 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03 16:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-08-03 15:25 ` Larry Kilgallen
[not found] ` <9Organization: LJK Software <pLczjM8J5xm3@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-08-03 15:27 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-01 18:49 ` Java portability John Doe
2001-08-02 4:38 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-27 19:44 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-27 20:43 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-28 1:04 ` Java portability (was: An Ada IDE and discussions) Lao Xiao Hai
2001-07-28 21:45 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-26 13:19 ` Java portability Georg Bauhaus
2001-07-26 15:07 ` nicolas
2001-07-27 9:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-07-27 9:56 ` nicolas
2001-07-27 13:06 ` Georg Bauhaus
[not found] ` <9jrcmm$mc0$1@aOrganization: LJK Software <Yjoj5DGkwoqg@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-07-27 11:43 ` nicolas
2001-07-27 12:02 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02 2:43 ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-02 13:18 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-08-02 8:03 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-30 20:00 ` Java portability (was: An Ada IDE and discussions) Dave Adlam
2001-07-24 2:54 ` An Ada IDE and discussions Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
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