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From: Pascal Martin <pascal.martin@iname.com.nospam>
Subject: Re: JAVA and ADA JGNAT
Date: 2000/02/06
Date: 2000-02-06T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DAan4.552$pE4.8687@cmnws01.we.mediaone.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87i8h0$lki$1@nnrp1.deja.com

In article <87i8h0$lki$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com> wrote:

> If you really think that a multi-billion dollar company like Redhat
> relies entirely on a competitor (Transmeta) to control their
> internal development, then you really have a reality model
> quite divorced from any reality :-)

Well.. Transmeta is not in competition with RedHat:

- RedHat sells a Linux-based OS, as software product,
   Transmeta sells chips and releases a Linux kernel and a
   limited set of tools for free (a meta-distribution, they say)
   to OEMs.

- RedHat's stated goal is to provide an OS for Internet servers
   and to cash in support services, Transmeta is selling a chip
   for thin Internet clients and laptops.

> If you really think that Redhat is doing no development, then
> it is simply because you are unaware of the major development

I am aware of it: I use Gnome :-), in which RedHat participated a lot.
But they do not develop Linux, the kernel. And probably 90% of the software
they deliver is not from RedHat, so they are hardly in control: the Ethernet 
drivers and Beowulf (NASA), X11 (Open Group), Apache (The Apache Group), 
the BSD tools, Emacs (FSF), Mozilla (Netscape), KDE (KDE Consortium), 
AbiWord (AbiSource), XV (John Bradley), sendmail (Sendmail, Inc), etc... 

Add to that the fact that many developments made in RedHat labs are 
copyrighted by the Author (not RedHat) and follow this one when he leaves 
(Rasterman and Enlightment comes to mind).

Nothing in common with ACT, which I believe develops most of the software
it delivers. I see ACT as a technology provider, RedHat more as a software editor.

Considering Microsoft, software editors may have a bright future (a lot of
Microsoft technologies have been developped outside of Microsoft..).

> (for example, ACT is quite happy if you think that GNAT
> is *the* version of Ada 95 :-)

Well.. having worked for Alsys/TSP/Aonix/<whatever..>, I do not buy in
such a thing. Imagine: I once though AdaMagic was The Ada95 Reference
Implementation 8-}

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Pascal F. Martin.






  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-02-06  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-01-18  0:00 JAVA and ADA JGNAT Mark Burge
2000-01-18  0:00 ` David Starner
2000-01-19  0:00   ` Ed Falis
2000-01-19  0:00     ` David Starner
2000-01-19  0:00       ` Ed Falis
2000-01-25  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-25  0:00     ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-25  0:00       ` David Starner
2000-01-25  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26  0:00           ` Aidan Skinner
2000-01-27  0:00             ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-05  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26  0:00           ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-26  0:00             ` Gautier
2000-01-26  0:00               ` David Starner
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26  0:00               ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-26  0:00             ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2000-01-26  0:00               ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26  0:00               ` Pascal Martin
2000-01-26  0:00                 ` David Starner
2000-01-26  0:00                 ` Aidan Skinner
2000-01-27  0:00                 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2000-01-27  0:00                   ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-27  0:00                     ` Chris Morgan
2000-01-28  0:00                       ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-30  0:00                         ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-01-31  0:00                           ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-05  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-28  0:00                       ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-31  0:00                         ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-05  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-05  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-27  0:00                 ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-27  0:00                 ` Pascal Obry
2000-02-05  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26  0:00           ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-01-26  0:00           ` David Starner
2000-01-31  0:00           ` Pascal F. Martin
2000-01-31  0:00             ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-31  0:00             ` reason67
2000-02-05  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-05  0:00               ` Chris Morgan
2000-02-06  0:00               ` Pascal Martin [this message]
2000-02-06  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-06  0:00                   ` Aidan Skinner
2000-02-07  0:00                   ` Pascal Martin
2000-02-08  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-11  0:00               ` Wes Groleau
2000-01-26  0:00         ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-26  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-05  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26  0:00           ` David Starner
2000-01-26  0:00             ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-26  0:00               ` David Starner
2000-01-27  0:00                 ` Preben Randhol
2000-02-05  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-05  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-19  0:00 ` Gautier
2000-01-19  0:00   ` Preben Randhol
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