From: adam@irvine.com (Adam Beneschan)
Subject: Re: Language Efficiency
Date: 1995/04/19
Date: 1995-04-19T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D7Ao9r.Ho6@irvine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.797512974@gnat
In article <dewar.797512974@gnat> dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:
> Ross Driedger says:
>
> "All I need to do is load my Smalltalk enviroment, type "2 + 2" in the
> transcript and invoke the 'Show It' command. Three seconds later, I get
> an answer."
>
> That is completely irrelevant, what you see in a particular implementation
> of a particular language does not necessarily have anything whatsoever to
> do with the languages involved.
>
> TO make the argument that there is some inherent difference in language
> efficiency, you have to give very specific examples of semantic features
> and argue that it is impossible to implement comparable features with
> comparable efficiency. What any particular implementations happen to do
> is not part of the discussion.
In a slightly later article, Robert writes:
> With regard to the "unexpected penalty" for (others => (others => 0)),
> aggregates certainly generate pretty horrible code in Ada. . . .
^^^^^^
not
> aggregates certainly generate pretty horrible code in some
> particular implementations of Ada. . . .
Hmmmmmm . . .
-- Adam
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1995-04-02 0:00 Language Efficiency Robert C. Bethel
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Harold P Zbiegien
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Kennel
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Ray Toal
1995-04-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Kennel
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` Multiple dispatch (was Re: C++ not OOP?) Kenneth Almquist
1995-04-19 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency Harley Davis
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` Paul Graham
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: " Fernando Mato Mira
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-19 0:00 ` David Weller
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-20 0:00 ` David Weller
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Ed Osinski
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Fernando Mato Mira
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Matt Austern
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Ed Osinski
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Matt Austern
1995-04-22 0:00 ` David Weller
1995-04-22 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-22 0:00 ` OOAD courses by Object Mentor cjames
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1995-04-21 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
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1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-22 0:00 ` Robert Martin
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1995-04-19 0:00 ` Multiple dispatch (was Re: C++ not OOP?) Fernando Mato Mira
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1995-04-21 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency James McKim
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Multiple dispatch (was Re: C++ not OOP?) Robert I. Eachus
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1995-04-20 0:00 ` C++ not OOP? (Was: Language Efficiency ron house
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Curtis Bass
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Fernando Mato Mira
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Erik Naggum
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Multiple dispatch (was Re: C++ not OOP?) Robert I. Eachus
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan [this message]
1995-04-19 0:00 ` Language Efficiency Robert Dewar
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1995-04-21 0:00 ` Fergus Henderson
1995-04-22 0:00 ` Kenneth Almquist
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1995-04-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1995-04-20 0:00 ` Matt Austern
1995-04-21 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1995-04-04 0:00 ` Bob Kitzberger
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Mike Wilson
1995-04-05 0:00 ` David Weller
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Lawrence Free/ A.F. Software Services
1995-04-05 0:00 ` Mitch Gart
1995-04-06 0:00 ` Ken Leidner
1995-04-06 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
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