* comp.lang.ada.leypold
@ 2006-06-28 3:25 Alexander E. Kopilovich
2006-06-28 13:38 ` comp.lang.ada.leypold M E Leypold
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From: Alexander E. Kopilovich @ 2006-06-28 3:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: comp.lang.ada
M E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de> wrote:
>Ada is a cathedral. Beautiful, mathematical and complete.
Well, like a cathedral - magnificient exterior, inspiring interior and good
liturgy. What is not so impressive there - is the doctrine -;)
Alexander
(Poor reader of the very thick book "Thomas Cranmer. A Life" -;)
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* Re: comp.lang.ada.leypold 2006-06-28 3:25 comp.lang.ada.leypold Alexander E. Kopilovich @ 2006-06-28 13:38 ` M E Leypold 2006-06-30 0:47 ` comp.lang.ada.leypold Alexander E. Kopilovich 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: M E Leypold @ 2006-06-28 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw) "Alexander E. Kopilovich" <aek@VB1162.spb.edu> writes: > M E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de> wrote: > > >Ada is a cathedral. Beautiful, mathematical and complete. > > Well, like a cathedral - magnificient exterior, inspiring interior and good > liturgy. What is not so impressive there - is the doctrine -;) Which doctrine? I mean, with Ada? And what does the subject mean? Regards -- Markus ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: comp.lang.ada.leypold 2006-06-28 13:38 ` comp.lang.ada.leypold M E Leypold @ 2006-06-30 0:47 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich 2006-06-30 9:05 ` comp.lang.ada.leypold M E Leypold 2006-06-30 12:50 ` comp.lang.ada.leypold Marc A. Criley 0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Alexander E. Kopilovich @ 2006-06-30 0:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: comp.lang.ada M E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de> wrote: >> >Ada is a cathedral. Beautiful, mathematical and complete. >> >> Well, like a cathedral - magnificient exterior, inspiring interior and good >> liturgy. What is not so impressive there - is the doctrine -;) > >Which doctrine? I mean, with Ada? Well, usually a cathedral is associated (at any given moment of time) with some doctrine. Although Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctrine ) rightly notes that "Sometimes 'doctrine' is an ambitious word for a mere slogan", I didn't use the word in that sense, as the doctrine behind Ada is not a mere slogan, far from that. Therefore, if you don't know about that doctrine (and perhaps do not even suspect its existense) then I can't help it. After all, generally, real doctrines (unlike mere slogans) cannot be communicated via small talk. In the case of Ada language, the doctrine may be generally described as a set of principles, particular case studies and authoritative views that provide guidelines for the language development and maintenance. >And what does the subject mean? Just a recognition of extraordinary prolific participant in comp.lang.ada . Within an Ada program such a great producer of messages probably deserves a separate package (child package, of course) for proper encapsulation. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: comp.lang.ada.leypold 2006-06-30 0:47 ` comp.lang.ada.leypold Alexander E. Kopilovich @ 2006-06-30 9:05 ` M E Leypold 2006-06-30 12:50 ` comp.lang.ada.leypold Marc A. Criley 1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: M E Leypold @ 2006-06-30 9:05 UTC (permalink / raw) "Alexander E. Kopilovich" <aek@VB1162.spb.edu> writes: > M E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de> wrote: > > >> >Ada is a cathedral. Beautiful, mathematical and complete. > >> > >> Well, like a cathedral - magnificient exterior, inspiring interior and good > >> liturgy. What is not so impressive there - is the doctrine -;) > > > >Which doctrine? I mean, with Ada? > > Well, usually a cathedral is associated (at any given moment of time) with > some doctrine. > > Although Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctrine ) rightly notes > that "Sometimes 'doctrine' is an ambitious word for a mere slogan", I didn't > use the word in that sense, as the doctrine behind Ada is not a mere slogan, > far from that. Therefore, if you don't know about that doctrine (and perhaps > do not even suspect its existense) then I can't help it. After all, generally, > real doctrines (unlike mere slogans) cannot be communicated via small talk. > In the case of Ada language, the doctrine may be generally described as a set > of principles, particular case studies and authoritative views that provide > guidelines for the language development and maintenance. Ah. As an hobbyist historian of old languages and operating systems: Are their any online sources on those guidelines and case studies? I know about steelman, the standards and the rationales themselves. I wasn't successful looking for tinman or woodenman and could not find a lot on the pre standard design phase. > >And what does the subject mean? > > Just a recognition of extraordinary prolific participant in comp.lang.ada . Substitute that as an extraordinary waste of time :-). I'll pipe down from now one, I promise. When I started I didn't know, things would develop in such a fashion and I felt somehow obligated to correct misunderstandings about the position I took. After all, if I start wondering about, let's say, GMGPL vs. GPL licensing issues and certain licensing transitions and then get accused (a bit out of context) that I only want to produce "proprietary software" with "other peoples free tools", or not caring for free software, it would look just to bad if I fell silent at exactly that point. > Within an Ada program such a great producer of messages probably deserves > a separate package (child package, of course) for proper encapsulation. :-). Regards -- Markus ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: comp.lang.ada.leypold 2006-06-30 0:47 ` comp.lang.ada.leypold Alexander E. Kopilovich 2006-06-30 9:05 ` comp.lang.ada.leypold M E Leypold @ 2006-06-30 12:50 ` Marc A. Criley 1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Marc A. Criley @ 2006-06-30 12:50 UTC (permalink / raw) Alexander E. Kopilovich wrote: > M E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de> wrote: >>And what does the subject mean? > > Just a recognition of extraordinary prolific participant in comp.lang.ada . > Within an Ada program such a great producer of messages probably deserves > a separate package (child package, of course) for proper encapsulation. I, for one, appreciate Markus' enthusiasm for posting--certainly sparked a great deal of conversation and debate around here :-) -- Marc A. Criley -- McKae Technologies -- www.mckae.com -- DTraq - XPath In Ada - XML EZ Out ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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