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From: pmartin@mail.earthlink.net (Pascal F. Martin)
Subject: Re: Java momentum slowing ?
Date: 1999/05/09
Date: 1999-05-09T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CrmZ2.2549$2j3.4026@clnws01.we.mediaone.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3735DEB0.5D2FDB05@Botton.com

Thanks for the information.

Most of the links you refer to are listed as "unstable", "usable" or
"in development": too bad.. In addition, none of these bindings is part of
the Ada standard: there is simply _no_ Ada standard here, while Java does
have a standard (albeit quite unstable: AWT, then SWING, then what else ?).

BTW, Java is not a scripting language: you need to use a compiler. Maybe
you confused with javascript ?

The main points I wanted to make is that the argument "the language X is
more portable than Y" is invalid without a distinction between language
and environment, and that people are comparing the Ada language with another
language + environment: apple with orange. If a valid comparison is to be
made, it should compare similar features.

As a conclusion, having used Ada for 7 years, I am still surprised how
immature are some language zealots. The fact that Ada is a good language
does not mean it is problem-free, or a silver bullet. I still remember the
silly thread "The Ariane 5 rocket would have not crashed if it had been
programmed in PL/1". A language is just a tool. No program is going to be
more robust or portable than its design allows it to be (intentionally
or not: I have seen easily portable designs that was not intended to be).

PS: Is anyone knows any language where I can open "foo" and "Foo" with
the same result on any OS ? The file name syntax & rules is still one of
the sticky portability problem. I have had a few bugs because of problems
like that.

In article <3735DEB0.5D2FDB05@botton.com>,
	David Botton <David@Botton.com> writes:
> I think you need to see:
> 
> TASH - TCL/TK bindings for Ada
> 
> http://tash.calspan.com/
> 
> [...]

-- 

Pascal F. Martin.





  reply	other threads:[~1999-05-09  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-04-29  0:00 Java momentum slowing ? Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-04-29  0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29  0:00   ` x
     [not found]   ` <7gesv8$1bol@drn.newsguy.com>
1999-05-02  0:00     ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-01  0:00       ` Mike
1999-05-02  0:00         ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-03  0:00           ` dvdeug
1999-05-04  0:00             ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-04  0:00               ` David Starner
1999-05-05  0:00                 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-05  0:00                   ` David Starner
1999-05-05  0:00                   ` bob
1999-05-02  0:00         ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-02  0:00           ` David Botton
1999-05-03  0:00         ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-02  0:00       ` David Botton
1999-05-02  0:00         ` bob
1999-05-02  0:00           ` Mitch
1999-05-02  0:00             ` Tom
1999-05-02  0:00         ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-04  0:00     ` Andrzej Lewandowski
1999-04-30  0:00 ` Tony Huynh
1999-04-30  0:00   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
     [not found]     ` <7gdlca$2j5l@drn.newsguy.com>
1999-05-02  0:00       ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-02  0:00         ` Bob
1999-05-03  0:00           ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-06  0:00             ` Richard D Riehle
1999-05-06  0:00               ` Matthew Whiting
1999-05-06  0:00                 ` Renaming Ada (Re: Java momentum slowing ?) David Botton
1999-05-06  0:00                   ` bob
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` Ada2001
1999-05-07  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-05-10  0:00                         ` Nick Roberts
1999-05-10  0:00                           ` Marin David Condic
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` P.S. Norby
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` dennison
1999-05-07  0:00                   ` Matthew Whiting
1999-05-07  0:00                   ` carlislemc
1999-05-07  0:00                     ` Ronald Cole
1999-05-10  0:00                   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-07  0:00               ` Java momentum slowing ? Bob Munck
1999-05-07  0:00                 ` Martin C. Carlisle
1999-05-08  0:00                 ` steve
1999-05-09  0:00                   ` bill
1999-05-09  0:00                     ` Simon Wright
1999-05-14  0:00                       ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-09  0:00                   ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-09  0:00                     ` David Botton
1999-05-09  0:00                       ` Pascal F. Martin [this message]
1999-05-09  0:00                         ` David Botton
1999-05-09  0:00                           ` bill
1999-05-09  0:00                             ` David Botton
1999-05-09  0:00                               ` Steve
1999-05-10  0:00                                 ` David Botton
1999-05-11  0:00                                   ` David Botton
1999-05-11  0:00                                     ` bob
1999-05-12  0:00                                       ` Lance Kibblewhite
1999-05-12  0:00                                         ` David Botton
1999-05-12  0:00                                           ` Lance Kibblewhite
1999-05-12  0:00                                             ` Hyman Rosen
1999-05-12  0:00                                               ` David Botton
1999-05-12  0:00                                                 ` Keith Thompson
1999-05-14  0:00                                                   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-14  0:00                                                     ` [OT] " Clayton Weaver
1999-05-12  0:00                                                 ` Dave
1999-05-13  0:00                                                   ` David Botton
1999-05-13  0:00                                                     ` Simon Wright
1999-05-13  0:00                                                   ` Pat Rogers
1999-05-09  0:00                         ` bob
1999-05-09  0:00                           ` David Botton
1999-05-10  0:00                             ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-10  0:00                               ` Rob
1999-05-10  0:00                           ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-10  0:00                             ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10  0:00                             ` Florian Weimer
1999-05-10  0:00                     ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-10  0:00                       ` Mitch
1999-05-10  0:00                         ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-11  0:00                     ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10  0:00                   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10  0:00                   ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10  0:00               ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-22  0:00           ` olefevre
1999-05-22  0:00             ` Bob
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