From: pmartin@mail.earthlink.net (Pascal F. Martin)
Subject: Re: Java momentum slowing ?
Date: 1999/05/09
Date: 1999-05-09T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CrmZ2.2549$2j3.4026@clnws01.we.mediaone.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3735DEB0.5D2FDB05@Botton.com
Thanks for the information.
Most of the links you refer to are listed as "unstable", "usable" or
"in development": too bad.. In addition, none of these bindings is part of
the Ada standard: there is simply _no_ Ada standard here, while Java does
have a standard (albeit quite unstable: AWT, then SWING, then what else ?).
BTW, Java is not a scripting language: you need to use a compiler. Maybe
you confused with javascript ?
The main points I wanted to make is that the argument "the language X is
more portable than Y" is invalid without a distinction between language
and environment, and that people are comparing the Ada language with another
language + environment: apple with orange. If a valid comparison is to be
made, it should compare similar features.
As a conclusion, having used Ada for 7 years, I am still surprised how
immature are some language zealots. The fact that Ada is a good language
does not mean it is problem-free, or a silver bullet. I still remember the
silly thread "The Ariane 5 rocket would have not crashed if it had been
programmed in PL/1". A language is just a tool. No program is going to be
more robust or portable than its design allows it to be (intentionally
or not: I have seen easily portable designs that was not intended to be).
PS: Is anyone knows any language where I can open "foo" and "Foo" with
the same result on any OS ? The file name syntax & rules is still one of
the sticky portability problem. I have had a few bugs because of problems
like that.
In article <3735DEB0.5D2FDB05@botton.com>,
David Botton <David@Botton.com> writes:
> I think you need to see:
>
> TASH - TCL/TK bindings for Ada
>
> http://tash.calspan.com/
>
> [...]
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Pascal F. Martin.
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-04-29 0:00 Java momentum slowing ? Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-04-29 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-04-29 0:00 ` x
[not found] ` <7gesv8$1bol@drn.newsguy.com>
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-01 0:00 ` Mike
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-03 0:00 ` dvdeug
1999-05-04 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-04 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-05-05 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
1999-05-05 0:00 ` David Starner
1999-05-05 0:00 ` bob
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-02 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-03 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-02 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-02 0:00 ` bob
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Mitch
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Tom
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-04 0:00 ` Andrzej Lewandowski
1999-04-30 0:00 ` Tony Huynh
1999-04-30 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
[not found] ` <7gdlca$2j5l@drn.newsguy.com>
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-02 0:00 ` Bob
1999-05-03 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-06 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1999-05-06 0:00 ` Matthew Whiting
1999-05-06 0:00 ` Renaming Ada (Re: Java momentum slowing ?) David Botton
1999-05-06 0:00 ` bob
1999-05-07 0:00 ` Corey Ashford
1999-05-07 0:00 ` Ada2001
1999-05-07 0:00 ` dennison
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Nick Roberts
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-05-07 0:00 ` P.S. Norby
1999-05-07 0:00 ` dennison
1999-05-07 0:00 ` Matthew Whiting
1999-05-07 0:00 ` carlislemc
1999-05-07 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-07 0:00 ` Java momentum slowing ? Bob Munck
1999-05-07 0:00 ` Martin C. Carlisle
1999-05-08 0:00 ` steve
1999-05-09 0:00 ` bill
1999-05-09 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1999-05-14 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-09 0:00 ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-09 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-09 0:00 ` Pascal F. Martin [this message]
1999-05-09 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-09 0:00 ` bill
1999-05-09 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-09 0:00 ` Steve
1999-05-10 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-11 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-11 0:00 ` bob
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Lance Kibblewhite
1999-05-12 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Lance Kibblewhite
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
1999-05-12 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1999-05-14 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-14 0:00 ` [OT] " Clayton Weaver
1999-05-12 0:00 ` Dave
1999-05-13 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-13 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1999-05-13 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1999-05-09 0:00 ` bob
1999-05-09 0:00 ` David Botton
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Rob
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Mitch
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
1999-05-11 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-10 0:00 ` Jean-Marten Marchi
1999-05-22 0:00 ` olefevre
1999-05-22 0:00 ` Bob
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