From: tmoran@acm.org
Subject: Re: Beginer problem: variable array size
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 17:09:55 GMT
Date: 2002-09-23T17:09:55+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CVHj9.45835$gA4.6897@sccrnsc02> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1032789075.864322@master.nyc.kbcfp.com
> The professor probably has files of input numbers that will
> be fed to each submitted program. I'll bet one of them is
> very large, to test the input size limit even if the sort
> won't complete in a reasonable amount of time.
I'd be very interested in seeing an answer to the OP problem that had no
limit on the number of inputs. I'd even be interested in a version that
would run with a very large number, say 6E23, of inputs. Would it use all
the machines on the internet to store input? I fear even that wouldn't be
enough. If you can't show such a program, then I'd like to know what in
fact are its limits, either as a constant like 8*3600 or 10_000_000
or by a formula like "System_RAM_In_Bytes/2" or some such thing.
> Furthermore, if you are going to have an arbitrary limit,
> you have to provide the extra code to handle the case of
> the limit being exceeded.
Not for an introductory class. And for a more advanced class,
I suspect a "raised Storage_Error" message, or taking a year to run,
wouldn't receive a very high grade.
> And further yet, why do you think you get to rewrite the
> given requirements just because they don't suit the style of
The OP problem spec was incomplete. Given that it followed a Hello
World program, I suspect it came early in a programming class and the prof
would be happy with a quadratic sort and would test it with a few tens at
most of inputs. If it was my homework, I'd include a statement of that
assumption and why I made it. If the assignment came up in an advanced
class after the prof had been describing a space probe crashing into the
sun, collecting a measurement every 50 nanoseconds for one half second,
then sorting and transmitting those 10 million measurements in the
remaining half second before meltdown, I would make different
assumptions, document them, and write the program a different way.
It's bad to make foolishly limiting assumptions, but worse to
depend on undocumented assumptions. Just the act of documenting
them may encourage a programmer to Think! and make better assumptions.
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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-09-15 14:53 Beginer problem: variable array size Nacho
2002-09-15 16:45 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-15 16:16 ` Nacho
2002-09-15 16:26 ` Ludovic Brenta
2002-09-15 17:46 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-09-15 18:27 ` Pascal Obry
2002-09-15 20:03 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-17 14:22 ` Ted Dennison
2002-09-18 11:53 ` Marin David Condic
2002-10-02 15:08 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-03 12:17 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-19 0:43 ` Robert A Duff
2002-09-19 1:25 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-09-19 14:17 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-20 3:06 ` Munch
2002-09-20 4:49 ` Jim Rogers
2002-09-20 6:35 ` tmoran
2002-09-20 16:00 ` Pat Rogers
2002-09-20 16:07 ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-20 20:15 ` Pat Rogers
2002-09-20 12:11 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-20 13:59 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-20 14:55 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-20 16:10 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-20 16:31 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-24 12:41 ` Thomas Dickey
2002-09-21 10:44 ` Thomas Dickey
2002-09-23 13:37 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-22 13:00 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-26 3:37 ` Kevin Cline
2002-09-26 12:42 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-22 12:49 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-20 16:28 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-20 17:49 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-21 7:30 ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-23 13:41 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-22 3:34 ` Ted Dennison
2002-09-22 13:18 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-24 16:55 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-25 12:06 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-21 22:23 ` tmoran
2002-09-23 13:53 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-23 15:19 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-09-23 16:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-23 17:09 ` tmoran [this message]
2002-09-23 18:18 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-23 19:53 ` tmoran
2002-09-23 20:32 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-09-23 20:10 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-09-23 23:09 ` tmoran
2002-09-24 2:33 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-09-24 12:36 ` Marin David Condic
2002-10-02 15:13 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-09-19 20:25 ` Brian Gaffney
2002-09-17 10:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-10-02 15:04 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-02 16:26 ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-02 19:53 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-03 12:31 ` Marin David Condic
2002-10-03 15:15 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-21 23:38 ` Matthew Heaney
2002-10-22 14:11 ` Matthew Heaney
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