Re: Clause "with and use"

Re: Clause "with and use"

[christoph.grein]

"Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler" <ada.rocks@jlfencey.com> wrote:

> Russ wrote:
> >Do you have any idea what that says
> >about your intelligence?
> 
> Referring to some other posting from you that follow the same style,
> I'd say: "Yes, I am an idiot." Satisfied?
> 
> >You might as well just blurt out, "I'm an idiot".
> 
> Well, and after all I've read from you, you might as well say, "All
> Ada programmers are idiots". Be it so.

Well said :-) I know I'm an idiot, too, but I like it...

And now all together:

We are idiots, idiots, idiots, and we love it so... (on a tune from West Side 
Story)

Intelligence, was: Clause "with and use"

[Anders Wirzenius]

<christoph.grein@eurocopter.com> wrote in message
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> "Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler" <ada.rocks@jlfencey.com> wrote:
>
> > Russ wrote:
> > >Do you have any idea what that says
> > >about your intelligence?
> >
> > Referring to some other posting from you that follow the same
style,
> > I'd say: "Yes, I am an idiot." Satisfied?
> >
> > >You might as well just blurt out, "I'm an idiot".
> >
> > Well, and after all I've read from you, you might as well say,
"All
> > Ada programmers are idiots". Be it so.
>
> Well said :-) I know I'm an idiot, too, but I like it...
>

So be it.
I don�t consider me to be an idiot and I think other�s opinions about
me as an idiot or not don�t count very high in my priorities. A person
with a lower IQ is usually happy with himself until "corrected" by
another person.

Wasn�t Vincent Van Gogh mentally ill? But he made lovely paintings!

Wasn't Beethoven deaf when he wrote his ninth symphony?

Why cannot an idiot write excellent code?

I somewhere read about an intelligence investigation that considered
some jungle tribe to have a lower IQ because they where not quite
familiar with the usage of a simple phone model.

Anders

Re: Intelligence, was: Clause "with and use"

[Dmitry A. Kazakov]

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 08:07:44 GMT, "Anders Wirzenius"
<anders.wirzenius@pp.qnet.fi> wrote:

><christoph.grein@eurocopter.com> wrote in message
>news:mailman.290.1068108838.25614.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org...
>> "Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler" <ada.rocks@jlfencey.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Russ wrote:
>> > >Do you have any idea what that says
>> > >about your intelligence?
>> >
>> > Referring to some other posting from you that follow the same
>style,
>> > I'd say: "Yes, I am an idiot." Satisfied?
>> >
>> > >You might as well just blurt out, "I'm an idiot".
>> >
>> > Well, and after all I've read from you, you might as well say,
>"All
>> > Ada programmers are idiots". Be it so.
>>
>> Well said :-) I know I'm an idiot, too, but I like it...
>>
>
>So be it.
>I don�t consider me to be an idiot and I think other�s opinions about
>me as an idiot or not don�t count very high in my priorities. A person
>with a lower IQ is usually happy with himself until "corrected" by
>another person.
>
>Wasn�t Vincent Van Gogh mentally ill? But he made lovely paintings!

Painting does not require the mental power which people usually called
idiots lack. An idiot could well be a genial painter or writer. I
would say that a truly great one also should be, to some extent.

>Wasn't Beethoven deaf when he wrote his ninth symphony?

As for this particular case, he wasn't an idiot!

>Why cannot an idiot write excellent code?

Put it otherwise. What is the probability that a piece of an excellent
code was written by an idiot?

>I somewhere read about an intelligence investigation that considered
>some jungle tribe to have a lower IQ because they where not quite
>familiar with the usage of a simple phone model.

A plainly incorrect experiment! Jungle trimes should have much higher
IQ than we, because they don't use C++! (:-))

---
Regards,
Dmitry Kazakov
www.dmitry-kazakov.de

Re: Intelligence, was: Clause "with and use"

[Anders Wirzenius]

"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 08:07:44 GMT, "Anders Wirzenius"
> <anders.wirzenius@pp.qnet.fi> wrote:
> >Wasn�t Vincent Van Gogh mentally ill? But he made lovely paintings!
>
> Painting does not require the mental power which people usually
called
> idiots lack. An idiot could well be a genial painter or writer. I
> would say that a truly great one also should be, to some extent.
>
> >Wasn't Beethoven deaf when he wrote his ninth symphony?
>
> As for this particular case, he wasn't an idiot!
>
> >Why cannot an idiot write excellent code?
>
> Put it otherwise. What is the probability that a piece of an
excellent
> code was written by an idiot?

... then put it back one step. What is the probability that an
excellent piece of music is composed by a deaf person? ;-)

Anders

Re: Intelligence, was: Clause "with and use"

[Dmitry A. Kazakov]

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:54:10 GMT, "Anders Wirzenius"
<anders.wirzenius@pp.qnet.fi> wrote:

>"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
>news:0mtmqvsker4h2d4p7p16vn970mf02ndpii@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 08:07:44 GMT, "Anders Wirzenius"
>> <anders.wirzenius@pp.qnet.fi> wrote:
>> >Wasn�t Vincent Van Gogh mentally ill? But he made lovely paintings!
>>
>> Painting does not require the mental power which people usually
>called
>> idiots lack. An idiot could well be a genial painter or writer. I
>> would say that a truly great one also should be, to some extent.
>>
>> >Wasn't Beethoven deaf when he wrote his ninth symphony?
>>
>> As for this particular case, he wasn't an idiot!
>>
>> >Why cannot an idiot write excellent code?
>>
>> Put it otherwise. What is the probability that a piece of an
>excellent
>> code was written by an idiot?
>
>... then put it back one step. What is the probability that an
>excellent piece of music is composed by a deaf person? ;-)

... close to the probability for an excellent code to be written by a
blind man!

---
Regards,
Dmitry Kazakov
www.dmitry-kazakov.de

Re: Intelligence, was: Clause "with and use"

[Frank J. Lhota]

"Anders Wirzenius" <anders.wirzenius@pp.qnet.fi> wrote in message
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> Why cannot an idiot write excellent code?

http://www.alsongs.com/index.cfm?view=alsong&SongNumber=25

Re: Intelligence, was: Clause "with and use"

[Stephane Richard]

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Well I fell of MY chair on that one Frank.  There's no better song for the
situation ;-).

-- 
"To err is human.  To really screw up, you need C++!"

St�phane Richard
"Ada World" Webmaster
http://www.adaworld.com


"Frank J. Lhota" <NOSPAM.lhota.adarose@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Anders Wirzenius" <anders.wirzenius@pp.qnet.fi> wrote in message
> news:kpIqb.65$cO3.9@read3.inet.fi...
> > Why cannot an idiot write excellent code?
>
> http://www.alsongs.com/index.cfm?view=alsong&SongNumber=25
>
>