* A Newbie to the group. @ 2010-06-15 14:51 adacrypt 2010-06-15 15:02 ` Adam Beneschan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: adacrypt @ 2010-06-15 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw) I have only just discovered your group and I must say this is a great discovery to me – Where have I been you might ask? – now that I’m here I look forward to coming again often. My interest has been in the application of Ada-95 to cryptography for over 10 years and I can demonstrate some very powerful ciphers as the result. These are world firsts in being theoretically unbreakable in class. I have been subscribing to sci crypt news group exclusively up until today and I have been using the pseudonym ‘adacrypt’. I have been banging the drum so loudly for Ada-95 over there and rattling the bars of their cages that I think I am high on some people’s assassination list. The good news is that there is demonstrably unbreakable cryptography on the table that owes a lot to Ada-95. It would be great if readers would check out my claims in today's sci crypt group. and perhaps correct me if I am wrong in what I say - my post over there was made oblivious of the group's existence earlier today - adacrypt ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: A Newbie to the group. 2010-06-15 14:51 A Newbie to the group adacrypt @ 2010-06-15 15:02 ` Adam Beneschan 2010-06-15 15:43 ` adacrypt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Adam Beneschan @ 2010-06-15 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw) On Jun 15, 7:51 am, adacrypt <austin.oby...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I have only just discovered your group and I must say this is a great > discovery to me – Where have I been you might ask? – now that I’m > here I look forward to coming again often. > > My interest has been in the application of Ada-95 to cryptography for > over 10 years and I can demonstrate some very powerful ciphers as the > result. These are world firsts in being theoretically unbreakable in > class. > > I have been subscribing to sci crypt news group exclusively up until > today and I have been using the pseudonym ‘adacrypt’. > > I have been banging the drum so loudly for Ada-95 over there and > rattling the bars of their cages that I think I am high on some > people’s assassination list. > > The good news is that there is demonstrably unbreakable cryptography > on the table that owes a lot to Ada-95. Interesting. I always thought that unbreakable cryptography was related more to C to Ada. I mean, there's a *lot* of C programs out there that no mortal human can decode.... :) :) :) :) :) -- Adam ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: A Newbie to the group. 2010-06-15 15:02 ` Adam Beneschan @ 2010-06-15 15:43 ` adacrypt 2010-06-15 17:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) 2010-06-15 18:11 ` (see below) 0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: adacrypt @ 2010-06-15 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw) On Jun 15, 4:02 pm, Adam Beneschan <a...@irvine.com> wrote: > On Jun 15, 7:51 am, adacrypt <austin.oby...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I have only just discovered your group and I must say this is a great > > discovery to me – Where have I been you might ask? – now that I’m > > here I look forward to coming again often. > > > My interest has been in the application of Ada-95 to cryptography for > > over 10 years and I can demonstrate some very powerful ciphers as the > > result. These are world firsts in being theoretically unbreakable in > > class. > > > I have been subscribing to sci crypt news group exclusively up until > > today and I have been using the pseudonym ‘adacrypt’. > > > I have been banging the drum so loudly for Ada-95 over there and > > rattling the bars of their cages that I think I am high on some > > people’s assassination list. > > > The good news is that there is demonstrably unbreakable cryptography > > on the table that owes a lot to Ada-95. > > Interesting. I always thought that unbreakable cryptography was > related more to C to Ada. I mean, there's a *lot* of C programs out > there that no mortal human can decode.... :) :) :) :) :) > > -- Adam- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Hi adam, There's a lot to be talked about here - may I explain my earlier remark that this cryptography owes a lot to Ada-95 - more correctly it owes alot to Professsor Feldman and the help he gave me at the outset some 8 years when I choose to learn Ada-95 in order to implement my brainwave of factoring three-dimensional vectors and using three- dimensional space as the encryption environment in cryptography - that had been suggested to me by an Iraqi mathematician who had read my work in factoring vectors and I was convinced that Ada-95 was the only language for this - I had studied Ada-83 at the University of Liverpool but it was on a mainframe computer (student's piece of directory) some 10 years earlier - I could handle the task of getting started again on a PC and it was a Godsend that Professor Feldman gave me a lot of help - I couldnt even install the compiler I was so green with PC's - he has probaly forgotten this by now but I haven't. Could I ask you to vist my website http://www.adacrypt.com abd have a look at " A New Approach to Cryptography" - this is attracting alot of interest by academic visitors. Could you please have a look at "File Handling in Ada-95 - A Demonstration" in today's post. Also could I ask you to have a look at my posting in sci crypt a few days ago called "The Winds of Change - The Three Faces of Cryptography". Crypto strength is not peculiar to any programming language on its own - reference your remark about 'C' programming language(in my view) but Ada lends itself admirably to cipher design. - adcrypt ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: A Newbie to the group. 2010-06-15 15:43 ` adacrypt @ 2010-06-15 17:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) 2010-06-15 17:30 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) ` (2 more replies) 2010-06-15 18:11 ` (see below) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) @ 2010-06-15 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw) Le Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:43:49 +0200, adacrypt <austin.obyrne@hotmail.com> a écrit: > Could I ask you to vist my website http://www.adacrypt.com abd have a > look at " A New Approach to Cryptography" - this is attracting alot of > interest by academic visitors. Just thanks -- There is even better than a pragma Assert: a SPARK --# check. --# check C and WhoKnowWhat and YouKnowWho; --# assert Ada; -- i.e. forget about previous premises which leads to conclusion -- and start with new conclusion as premise. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: A Newbie to the group. 2010-06-15 17:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) @ 2010-06-15 17:30 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) 2010-06-15 18:14 ` adacrypt 2010-06-15 21:41 ` Non scrivetemi 2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) @ 2010-06-15 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw) Le Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:29:06 +0200, Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr> a écrit: > Le Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:43:49 +0200, adacrypt <austin.obyrne@hotmail.com> > a écrit: >> Could I ask you to vist my website http://www.adacrypt.com abd have a >> look at " A New Approach to Cryptography" - this is attracting alot of >> interest by academic visitors. > Just thanks You should also submit it to the http://www.adaic.org/ webmaster (if not already done). -- There is even better than a pragma Assert: a SPARK --# check. --# check C and WhoKnowWhat and YouKnowWho; --# assert Ada; -- i.e. forget about previous premises which leads to conclusion -- and start with new conclusion as premise. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: A Newbie to the group. 2010-06-15 17:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) 2010-06-15 17:30 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) @ 2010-06-15 18:14 ` adacrypt 2010-06-15 20:25 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) 2010-06-15 21:41 ` Non scrivetemi 2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: adacrypt @ 2010-06-15 18:14 UTC (permalink / raw) On Jun 15, 6:29 pm, Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) <yannick_duch...@yahoo.fr> wrote: > Le Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:43:49 +0200, adacrypt <austin.oby...@hotmail.com> a > écrit:> Could I ask you to vist my websitehttp://www.adacrypt.comabd have a > > look at " A New Approach to Cryptography" - this is attracting alot of > > interest by academic visitors. > > Just thanks > > -- > There is even better than a pragma Assert: a SPARK --# check. > --# check C and WhoKnowWhat and YouKnowWho; > --# assert Ada; > -- i.e. forget about previous premises which leads to conclusion > -- and start with new conclusion as premise. Hi, I am a bit of a loss to interpret your meaning - Do you mean I should promote this as something of academic interest to the refernces you give me or is there some mistake on my part - I would appreciate it if you enlighten me a bit - adacrypt ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: A Newbie to the group. 2010-06-15 18:14 ` adacrypt @ 2010-06-15 20:25 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) @ 2010-06-15 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw) Le Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:14:25 +0200, adacrypt <austin.obyrne@hotmail.com> a écrit: > Hi, > > I am a bit of a loss to interpret your meaning - Do you mean I should > promote this as something of academic interest to the refernces you > give me or is there some mistake on my part - I would appreciate it if > you enlighten me a bit - adacrypt Bycause this is the first time I see an Ada job in this area, and it looks promising. A little note: it seems there is a CRC error in the Ada source archive. I could not unpack it. On the page http://www.adacrypt.com/computerised_pad.html the link named “DOWNLOAD Joint Thin Tile Cryptography - Batch & Realtime Source Code (22Mb)” -- There is even better than a pragma Assert: a SPARK --# check. --# check C and WhoKnowWhat and YouKnowWho; --# assert Ada; -- i.e. forget about previous premises which leads to conclusion -- and start with new conclusion as premise. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: A Newbie to the group. 2010-06-15 17:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) 2010-06-15 17:30 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) 2010-06-15 18:14 ` adacrypt @ 2010-06-15 21:41 ` Non scrivetemi 2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Non scrivetemi @ 2010-06-15 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw) adacrypt <austin.obyrne@hotmail.com> is a confirmed idiot and menace to society. He spams sci.crypt with his ideas, and they are always shot full of holes in 2 minutes. The best thing anyone can do is to killfile the stupid bastard. Don't say I didn't warn you! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: A Newbie to the group. 2010-06-15 15:43 ` adacrypt 2010-06-15 17:29 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) @ 2010-06-15 18:11 ` (see below) 2010-06-15 18:33 ` adacrypt 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: (see below) @ 2010-06-15 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw) On 15/06/2010 16:43, in article 26d9422f-e704-458b-a6eb-c7ec70a28ba7@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com, "adacrypt" <austin.obyrne@hotmail.com> wrote: > ... I choose to learn Ada-95 in order to implement my > brainwave of factoring three-dimensional vectors and using three- > dimensional space as the encryption environment in cryptography - that > had been suggested to me by an Iraqi mathematician who had read my > work in factoring vectors and I was convinced that Ada-95 was the only > language for this ... Why? -- Bill Findlay <surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: A Newbie to the group. 2010-06-15 18:11 ` (see below) @ 2010-06-15 18:33 ` adacrypt 2010-06-15 18:42 ` adacrypt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: adacrypt @ 2010-06-15 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw) On Jun 15, 7:11 pm, "(see below)" <yaldni...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > On 15/06/2010 16:43, in article > 26d9422f-e704-458b-a6eb-c7ec70a28...@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com, > > "adacrypt" <austin.oby...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > ... I choose to learn Ada-95 in order to implement my > > brainwave of factoring three-dimensional vectors and using three- > > dimensional space as the encryption environment in cryptography - that > > had been suggested to me by an Iraqi mathematician who had read my > > work in factoring vectors and I was convinced that Ada-95 was the only > > language for this ... > > Why? > > -- > Bill Findlay > <surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk Hi, I take you mean why did I think Ada was the more suitable language? I had already done some casual work on factorising large numbers in Ada-83. I had been introduced to cryptography by one Dr. Chalabi who I had asked to read my stuff on vector factoring (see "Factoring of Vectors in Vector Cryptography" http://www.adacrypt.com)- he was active in cryptography - I soon saw an algorithm in vector factoring that is a one-way function in mathematics that is imminently suitable for cryptography - it was pure instinct from there onwards but I was convinced that the system structures of Ada-95 were ideal for what I wanted to do in cryptography. The mathematical algorithm was very transparent to me but it was going to be a problem at the time to implement it in Ada due largely to my inexperience of programming in Ada-95 - I repeat that mathematical instinct was the driving force - its the only thing I claim to have in abundance - I have taught myself enough Ada just to complete this work - I am a retired engineer and although I revere Ada programming I have no reason to go any deeper into it in a general way - adacrypt ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: A Newbie to the group. 2010-06-15 18:33 ` adacrypt @ 2010-06-15 18:42 ` adacrypt 2010-06-15 18:50 ` (see below) 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: adacrypt @ 2010-06-15 18:42 UTC (permalink / raw) On Jun 15, 7:33 pm, adacrypt <austin.oby...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 15, 7:11 pm, "(see below)" <yaldni...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > On 15/06/2010 16:43, in article > > 26d9422f-e704-458b-a6eb-c7ec70a28...@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com, > > > "adacrypt" <austin.oby...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > ... I choose to learn Ada-95 in order to implement my > > > brainwave of factoring three-dimensional vectors and using three- > > > dimensional space as the encryption environment in cryptography - that > > > had been suggested to me by an Iraqi mathematician who had read my > > > work in factoring vectors and I was convinced that Ada-95 was the only > > > language for this ... > > > Why? > > > -- > > Bill Findlay > > <surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk > > Hi, > > I take you mean why did I think Ada was the more suitable language? > > I had already done some casual work on factorising large numbers in > Ada-83. I had been introduced to cryptography by one Dr. Chalabi who I > had asked to read my stuff on vector factoring (see "Factoring of > Vectors in Vector Cryptography"http://www.adacrypt.com)-he was > active in cryptography - I soon saw an algorithm in vector factoring > that is a one-way function in mathematics that is imminently suitable > for cryptography - it was pure instinct from there onwards but I was > convinced that the system structures of Ada-95 were ideal for what I > wanted to do in cryptography. The mathematical algorithm was very > transparent to me but it was going to be a problem at the time to > implement it in Ada due largely to my inexperience of programming in > Ada-95 - I repeat that mathematical instinct was the driving force - > its the only thing I claim to have in abundance - I have taught myself > enough Ada just to complete this work - I am a retired engineer and > although I revere Ada programming I have no reason to go any deeper > into it in a general way - adacrypt- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Also, I have no idea how to proceed with any topic that you may think worth expounding at some higher level - if you see any potential perhaps you would let me know explicitly - I'm a bit slow on the uptake - adcrypt ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: A Newbie to the group. 2010-06-15 18:42 ` adacrypt @ 2010-06-15 18:50 ` (see below) 2010-06-15 21:20 ` adacrypt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: (see below) @ 2010-06-15 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw) On 15/06/2010 19:42, in article 2dfafa54-b744-4670-b85a-2d59d850a0a1@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com, "adacrypt" <austin.obyrne@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 15, 7:33�pm, adacrypt <austin.oby...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> On Jun 15, 7:11�pm, "(see below)" <yaldni...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 15/06/2010 16:43, in article >>> 26d9422f-e704-458b-a6eb-c7ec70a28...@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com, >> >>> "adacrypt" <austin.oby...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> ... I choose to learn Ada-95 in order to implement my >>>> brainwave of factoring three-dimensional vectors and using three- >>>> dimensional space as the encryption environment in cryptography - that >>>> had been suggested to me by an Iraqi mathematician who had read my >>>> work in factoring vectors and I was convinced that Ada-95 was the only >>>> language for this ... >> >>> Why? >> >>> -- >>> Bill Findlay >>> <surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk >> >> Hi, >> >> I take you mean why did I think Ada was the more suitable language? >> >> I had already done some casual work on factorising large numbers in >> Ada-83. I had been introduced to cryptography by one Dr. Chalabi who I >> had asked to read my stuff on vector factoring (see "Factoring of >> Vectors in Vector Cryptography"http://www.adacrypt.com)-he was >> active in cryptography - I soon saw an algorithm in vector factoring >> that is a one-way function in mathematics that is imminently suitable >> for cryptography - it was pure instinct from there onwards but I was >> convinced that the system structures of Ada-95 were ideal for what I >> wanted to do in cryptography. �The mathematical algorithm was very >> transparent to me but it was going to be a problem at the time to >> implement it in Ada due largely to my inexperience of programming in >> Ada-95 - I repeat that mathematical instinct was the driving force - >> its the only thing I claim to have in abundance - I have taught myself >> enough Ada just to complete this work - I am a retired engineer and >> although I revere Ada programming I have no reason to go any deeper >> into it in a general way - adacrypt- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Also, > > I have no idea how to proceed with any topic that you may think worth > expounding at some higher level - if you see any potential perhaps you > would let me know explicitly - I'm a bit slow on the uptake - adcrypt You are "convinced" that Ada was in some way "ideal". I simply ask what is it about Ada that made you consider it ideal? -- Bill Findlay <surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: A Newbie to the group. 2010-06-15 18:50 ` (see below) @ 2010-06-15 21:20 ` adacrypt 2010-06-15 21:41 ` (see below) 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: adacrypt @ 2010-06-15 21:20 UTC (permalink / raw) On Jun 15, 7:50 pm, "(see below)" <yaldni...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > On 15/06/2010 19:42, in article > 2dfafa54-b744-4670-b85a-2d59d850a...@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com, > > > > > > "adacrypt" <austin.oby...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > On Jun 15, 7:33 pm, adacrypt <austin.oby...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> On Jun 15, 7:11 pm, "(see below)" <yaldni...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > >>> On 15/06/2010 16:43, in article > >>> 26d9422f-e704-458b-a6eb-c7ec70a28...@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com, > > >>> "adacrypt" <austin.oby...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>> ... I choose to learn Ada-95 in order to implement my > >>>> brainwave of factoring three-dimensional vectors and using three- > >>>> dimensional space as the encryption environment in cryptography - that > >>>> had been suggested to me by an Iraqi mathematician who had read my > >>>> work in factoring vectors and I was convinced that Ada-95 was the only > >>>> language for this ... > > >>> Why? > > >>> -- > >>> Bill Findlay > >>> <surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk > > >> Hi, > > >> I take you mean why did I think Ada was the more suitable language? > > >> I had already done some casual work on factorising large numbers in > >> Ada-83. I had been introduced to cryptography by one Dr. Chalabi who I > >> had asked to read my stuff on vector factoring (see "Factoring of > >> Vectors in Vector Cryptography"http://www.adacrypt.com)-hewas > >> active in cryptography - I soon saw an algorithm in vector factoring > >> that is a one-way function in mathematics that is imminently suitable > >> for cryptography - it was pure instinct from there onwards but I was > >> convinced that the system structures of Ada-95 were ideal for what I > >> wanted to do in cryptography. The mathematical algorithm was very > >> transparent to me but it was going to be a problem at the time to > >> implement it in Ada due largely to my inexperience of programming in > >> Ada-95 - I repeat that mathematical instinct was the driving force - > >> its the only thing I claim to have in abundance - I have taught myself > >> enough Ada just to complete this work - I am a retired engineer and > >> although I revere Ada programming I have no reason to go any deeper > >> into it in a general way - adacrypt- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Also, > > > I have no idea how to proceed with any topic that you may think worth > > expounding at some higher level - if you see any potential perhaps you > > would let me know explicitly - I'm a bit slow on the uptake - adcrypt > > You are "convinced" that Ada was in some way "ideal". > I simply ask what is it about Ada that made you consider it ideal? > > -- > Bill Findlay > <surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I need to talk around this matter for a moment - it is more important to say why it is ideal now rather than why I saw it as being ideal at the outset. A salient feature of this cryptogrpahy in additon to the mathematical algorithm that is based upon is that it uses a new concept which I have developed that I am calling mutual database cryptography. Mutual database means that the entities share some several arrays of data that are referenced i.e. indexed by the ciphertext in sequential order that gives the data the correct structure to turn scrambled meaningless characters into meaningful information. This is a piece of management technology that saves sending important vulnerable keys in transit (a sore defect in current mainstream cryptography)so that if an adversary manages to intercept the ciphertext , something that always has to be assumed as inevitable and indeed certain, then he only gets a worthless string of indexing data that is useless without the database that it relates to. The way this works is that the sending entity, industry standard pseudonym Alice, prepares her encryption program with all the necessary arrays of data that she uses to encrypt plaintext messages into ciphertext. She next creates the decryption program that enables her to check her previous encryption work by decrypting it in her own computer. When she has tweaked this to perfection she sends an exact copy of her joint encryption/decryption program(s) to the receiving entity, industry standard pseudonym Bob. Clearly she is able now to encrypt messages now and send these to Bob knowing that only Bob alone can decrypt it because only he has an exact copy of the several arrays of her database. The ciphertext functions as a kind of markup language that correctly references the mutual databases but has no encapsulated information by way of keys within itself - it is useless to an adversary who intercepts it - this ploy is part of my very secure cryptpography which is further secured by other means (much more maths later - this here is a management-orientated part topic). It is necessary at the outset of setting up a secure loop between new entities to make a one-off secure delivery of the copy of Alice's database to the new Bob. It is also necessary to expand a large network by other such deliveries to other Bob's and so on. To get to the point the packages of Ada are ideal for these deliveries which may be sent by unsecured email in many cases after the initial contact is made. The construction of a cipher crypto system is very, very manageable by using these packages for their portability and compactness, for on-site scrambling, for slicing of arrays and general all round mmanagement suitability. They can be used as digital signature also if needs be. All of this topic of bears a lot of discussion - this is just a broad outline of what is involved. My instincts at the very outset suggested that all of this would be serviced better by Ada than other programming languages. I was hooked on the package as a system structure in Ada-95 from the word go. Cryptographers have never used this concept before now and instead have resorted to sending secure information by transfroming the plaintext by some mathematically functional method at encryption time and then embedding the transformed form directly into the ciphertext (there for the finding and inverting by some mathematical means by illegal cryptanalysts). I call this encapsulation cryptography (a privately coined word). I compare this cryptography with sending cash through the post instead of a cheque by analogy. I hope this is intelligible to you - adacrypt ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: A Newbie to the group. 2010-06-15 21:20 ` adacrypt @ 2010-06-15 21:41 ` (see below) 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: (see below) @ 2010-06-15 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw) On 15/06/2010 22:20, in article c6e6517f-bf79-4708-81f9-2412f7fd314c@w31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com, "adacrypt" <austin.obyrne@hotmail.com> wrote: > I hope this is intelligible to you - adacrypt It is intelligible enough to make it clear that it is almost entirely irrelevant to question I asked. -- Bill Findlay <surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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