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From: "(see below)" <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Invade wikipedia!
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:10:15 +0000
Date: 2009-02-25T16:10:15+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C5CB1DE7.10D05A%yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4013d6a4-f4f4-4d6e-92bd-161687608db9@w9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com

On 25/02/2009 08:59, in article
4013d6a4-f4f4-4d6e-92bd-161687608db9@w9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com, "Hibou57
(Yannick Duch�ne)" <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> To say that these comments does not offer any value, ... it is a
> valuable point of view (as is as much the one which says that it may
> be useful for visual seeking).

It is not at all clear who you are replying to, but I take it to be me.

> But the to comment on comments asserting it is unuseful and dangerous,
> is another matter.

Indeed, it is more insightful and accurate to say the letter. 8-)

[...] 
> A source without comments, is a source which hides every thing.

Please note that I did NOT say that source should be without comments.
 
> If comments are dangerous, so the human though which drives the
> application developpement (or order it), is as much dangerous.

True, but the compiler checks the human (through their code).
It does not check the comments.
 
> I agree that comments may be dangerous when these are not up to date,
> but this is another matter.

No, it is not another matter.

> Did you ever tried to come back to you own code two years, three years

I have code that I wrote 40 years ago, and I can easily follow it.
That is because I did the work needed to made it understandable.
(That included writing a few, judicious, comments.)

> later ? I use to do, on some application I lacked to comment.... the
> only one thing I could do was to regret this lack, and restart the
> whole work, without forgetting comments the second time.

How much better to have written the code comprehensibly the first time!

> Well, perhpaps it should be worth to point about the life cycle. If
> you are talking about very short life cycle applications, then, I
> agree.... you can drop comments. But if not, you will inevitably face
> a fact : meanings, purpose and implementations are not the same
> things. There is code for implementations and purposes, and comments
> for purposes and meanings.

Agreed, if we extend <comments> to <documentation>.

-- 
Bill Findlay
<surname><forename> chez blueyonder.co.uk




  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-25 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-24 11:03 Invade wikipedia! Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-02-24 13:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-24 14:49   ` (see below)
2009-02-24 15:11     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-24 15:22       ` (see below)
2009-02-24 15:49         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-24 16:32           ` (see below)
2009-02-24 17:31             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-24 14:50   ` Martin
2009-02-24 15:16     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-24 19:48     ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-24 20:34       ` sjw
2009-02-24 21:27       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-02-24 21:48         ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-24 22:43           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-02-24 23:03         ` Adam Beneschan
2009-02-24 23:28           ` Martin
2009-02-24 23:33             ` (see below)
2009-02-25  0:08               ` Martin
2009-02-25  0:52                 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-02-25  1:45                 ` (see below)
2009-02-25 16:38                 ` Martin
2009-02-25 21:03                   ` Adam Beneschan
2009-02-25  8:05               ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2009-02-25  8:59                 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-25 16:10                   ` (see below) [this message]
2009-02-25 18:13                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-25 18:53                       ` (see below)
2009-02-25 19:19                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-27 23:53                           ` Randy Brukardt
2009-02-28  6:31                             ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-28  8:49                               ` Ivan Levashew
2009-02-25 19:17                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-25 22:48                       ` Robert A Duff
2009-02-26  3:21                       ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-26 10:07                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-26  3:20                     ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-25 15:57                 ` (see below)
2009-02-25 22:14                 ` Adam Beneschan
2009-02-24 23:53             ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-25  0:07               ` Martin
2009-02-24 23:02       ` Adam Beneschan
2009-02-24 14:52 ` Peter Hermann
2009-02-24 15:44 ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-24 15:53   ` Peter Hermann
2009-02-24 16:18     ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-24 16:32   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-02-24 16:52   ` Adam Beneschan
2009-02-24 18:30     ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-24 18:46       ` Adam Beneschan
2009-02-24 19:42   ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-24 19:59     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-24 20:08       ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-24 23:01     ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-24 23:47       ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-26  0:52         ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-26  3:33           ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-26  6:38             ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-25 22:15       ` Ivan Levashew
2009-02-24 19:29 ` Martin Krischik
2009-02-25 22:31 ` Ivan Levashew
2009-02-25 23:07   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-02-26  0:44   ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-26  8:29   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-26 10:40   ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-02-26 13:53     ` Ivan Levashew
2009-02-26 14:13       ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-02-26 15:42         ` Peter Hermann
2009-02-26 16:37         ` Adam Beneschan
2009-02-26 17:57           ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2009-02-26 14:20       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-26 17:44       ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-26 18:16         ` Adam Beneschan
2009-02-27 11:30           ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-27 17:33             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-02-27 23:31               ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-02-28  0:31                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-02-28  5:26               ` Ivan Levashew
2009-02-28  6:27                 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-28  6:40                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2009-02-28  7:01                   ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2009-02-28 11:45                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2009-03-03 14:16               ` Anders Wirzenius
2009-03-03 15:34                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-03-04  5:52                   ` Anders Wirzenius
2009-03-04  9:19                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-03-04 13:31                   ` Stuart
2009-03-04 13:20               ` Stuart
2009-03-04 13:46                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2009-03-04 18:41                   ` Stuart
2009-03-04 20:46                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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