From: olivea!gossip.pyramid.com!pyramid!athertn!usenet@uunet.uu.net (Ed White)
Subject: Re: DoD and NIST undermining commercial CASE industry
Date: 3 Dec 92 00:11:36 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BynpvG.D7z@atherton.com> (raw)
In article <ByM75t.2s6@world.std.com> srctran@world.std.com (Gregory Aharonian)
writes:
>
> The November 30, 1992 issue of Computerworld, page 73, contains the
> following article on how the DoD and the NIST are undermining the commercial
> CASE industry in America. Another example of socialist bureacrats trying to
The article in Computerworld was based on the following letter from Ed White of
Atherton to Bill Wong at NIST.
November 14, 1992
Mr. William Wong
Senior Computer Scientist
National Institute of Standards & Technology
Technology Building, Room B266
Gaithersburg, MD 20899
Dear Bill:
The User Forum of the Integrated Software Engineering Environments held on
November 9, 1992 at NIST was informative, but raised the following concerns by
Atherton and its customers who are developing ISEE's.
1. Although more development is being done in the U.S. on ISEE's based on ATIS
than PCTE, the leadership and User Forum agendas of NIST ISEE are dominated by
PCTE interests. In the U.S. the major ISEE builders utilizing ATIS are Loral
(CORCASE), Verdix (VADS APSE), GTE (PSE), and Boeing (CAPE).
In Europe, CRI, with Life*Cycle, an ISEE based on ATIS technology from
Atherton, has been the leading ISEE supplier for two consecutive years.
These ATIS ISEE's were not represented in the agenda of the November 9, 1992
ISEE User Forum.
2. Based on presentations by PCTE supporters at the ISEE User Forum, it is
clear that implementations of PCTE do not have the maturity of ATIS
implementations. The time required to produce mature PCTE implementations and
to build industrial strength ISEE's based on PCTE is estimated to be 3-5 years.
3. At the User Forum, organizations implementing PCTE and PCTE ISEE's
expressed a desire for PCTE to support: (1) objects types with methods and
method inheritance to improve ISEE development productivity, and (2)
fine-grained objects types - enabling PCTE to store records as well as files.
Performance is not acceptable for applications like metrics or change
management if every record is a file. ATIS has these object-oriented features
today. There are no ECMA PCTE plans to support these features.
Based on the above information, Atherton recommends support by NIST and NAPI
for a merger of ATIS and PCTE interests and technologies in the U.S. with the
following actions:
a. Change the name of NAPI to NAISEE.
b. Include ATIS representatives in the management and agendas of
your programs.
c. Sponsor a merger of PCTE and ATIS specifications into an object-
oriented specification. ATIS has the specifications for object types
which includes fine grained and coarse grained object types, methods
in object types, inheritance of methods in object types, and a message
interface to the methods in object types. ATIS ISEE's have
complete integrations for IDE's, Cadre's, McCabe's, CenterLine's, HP's,
Interleaf's, Verilog's, Frame's and many other vendors' products as
well as processes like 2167A that are based on real objects with
inherited methods and messages.
d. Support the activities of ANSI X3H4 and X3H6 committees, which
are establishing advanced U.S. standards for ISEE repositories and
Tool Integration Services.
Bill, we appreciate the work of NIST and NAPI in advancing ISEE technology in
the U.S. and look forward to working with both organizations to implement the
above recommendations. To do otherwise will result in a 3-5 year program to
implement PCTE followed by another 3-5 year program to change it to an
object-oriented technology like ATIS.
Sincerely,
W. Edward White
Vice President
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