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From: "Jeffrey R. Carter" <spam@spam.com>
Subject: Re: pointer questions
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 03:46:41 GMT
Date: 2005-11-02T03:46:41+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BEW9f.388$uD5.178@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan.2005.11.02.00.51.10.448346@linuxchip.demon.co.uk.uk.uk>

Dr. Adrian Wrigley wrote:

> This is exactly the situation.  The "Things" were about 36 bytes each
> and I changed to having around 20 million pointers to things.
> Single bit errors in pointers had a much more significant effect
> than single bit errors in "Things" (which tended to be ignored
> for various reasons).

Right. I don't think I'd ever want to consider a continually running program 
with 20 million pointers. What did that buy you over the single-pointer version?

> well speculated! (was it so unclear?)

Thanks. I wasn't clear what was causing the crashes at 1st. With a little more 
thought, it seemed likely it was dereferencing a pointer with a flipped bit.

> Another "feature" I observed was that files could stay cached by the OS
> for months, and accumulate the occasional single-bit error.  But when you
> evict the cached pages and read the data again, the errors disappear.
> Plenty of scope for very rare Heisenbugs.

Interesting. It's not something you normally have to think about; most programs 
don't run for that long. I remember a noticeable # of bit errors during a solar 
maximum about 1980, but don't recall it repeating in 1991 or 2002.

-- 
Jeff Carter
"In the frozen land of Nador they were forced to
eat Robin's minstrels, and there was much rejoicing."
Monty Python & the Holy Grail
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-02  3:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-26 23:01 pointer questions Szymon Guz
2005-10-26 23:51 ` Gene
2005-10-26 23:58 ` tmoran
2005-10-27  1:12 ` Stephen Leake
2005-10-27  2:30 ` Steve
2005-10-27  5:56 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-27 10:19   ` Szymon Guz
2005-10-27 14:14     ` Robert A Duff
2005-11-07  4:21       ` Dave Thompson
2005-10-27 14:11   ` Robert A Duff
2005-10-27 15:13     ` Marc A. Criley
2005-10-27 18:53       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-27 17:29     ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-27 18:28       ` Marc A. Criley
2005-10-27 19:28         ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-28  0:12           ` Robert A Duff
2005-10-28 11:57           ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-10-28 21:26             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-30 22:26               ` Robert A Duff
2005-10-31  6:21                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-11-02  0:52                   ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-11-02  3:46                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter [this message]
2005-11-02 11:16                       ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-11-02 13:39                     ` Robert A Duff
2005-11-02 15:34                     ` Bob Spooner
2005-11-02 18:59                     ` Björn Persson
2005-10-27 18:43     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-28  0:42       ` Robert A Duff
2005-10-28  5:58         ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-28 21:24         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-28 11:53     ` David
2005-10-29 12:25       ` Simon Wright
2005-10-27 17:19 ` Martin Krischik
2005-11-07  4:21   ` Dave Thompson
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