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From: Bill Findlay <yaldnifw@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: proposal for new assignment operators
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 03:33:24 +0100
Date: 2003-06-26T03:33:24+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BB201A04.37A3%yaldnifw@blueyonder.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: bebbba07.0306251806.5789a018@posting.google.com

On 26/6/03 03:06, in article
bebbba07.0306251806.5789a018@posting.google.com, "Russ"
<18k11tm001@sneakemail.com> wrote:

> Bill Findlay <yaldnifw@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> Your syntax is *in*compatible with the co-existence of the '=' operator and
>> the ':=' assignment symbol. In your proposal, x :? y,
>> for some operator ?, means: "x is assigned the value of (x ? y)".
>> 
>> I now ask, what does a := b mean when a and b are Boolean?
>> Does it assign (a = b) to a, or does it assign b to a?
> 
> Oh, now I see what you mean. You have an interesting point, but I
> don't think its particularly compelling. The ":=" symbol obviously
> should not be redefined for this special case. So the answer to your
> question is that a := b would assign b to a.
> 
> It's not really an incompatibility; its just that "=" doesn't happen
> to be one of the operators that should have an in-place counterpart.

Is there any better reason for this than expediency?

> It wouldn't be useful anyway.

'=' for Boolean operands is every bit (!) as useful as 'xor'.

> After all, none of the languages with "+=" have "===", do they?

Ah! You think Ada should aspire to the arbitrariness of C in this regard.

Which of Ada's operators do you think should be given these special
privileges, and which should be second-class citizens?

-- 
Bill-Findlay chez blue-yonder.co.uk ("-" => "")




  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-26  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-25  6:23 proposal for new assignment operators Russ
2003-06-25  8:49 ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-25 10:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-25 10:36   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-25 17:49     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-26 10:37       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-27  8:15         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-06-27 14:21           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-06-25 19:17   ` Russ
2003-06-25 10:39 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-25 12:06   ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-25 13:40     ` Peter Hermann
2003-06-25 22:12     ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-26  8:03       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-26  8:25         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-26 15:02       ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-26 17:54         ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-26 18:32           ` Stephen Leake
2003-06-27 13:21             ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-26 16:32       ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-26 17:41         ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-26 17:58           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-26  2:36     ` Steve
2003-06-26  2:33   ` Russ
2003-06-26 23:02     ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-25 14:07 ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-06-25 16:27   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-26  3:09     ` Russ
2003-06-26  6:27       ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-26 10:49       ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-26 18:08         ` Russ
2003-06-26 18:19           ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-26 18:45           ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-07-02 15:57             ` Kevin Cline
2003-07-02 17:10               ` tmoran
2003-07-02 18:27                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-02 20:20                   ` tmoran
2003-07-03  1:48               ` Richard Riehle
2003-07-03  3:07                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-03  5:12                   ` Randy Brukardt
2003-07-03 13:03                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-03 14:46                   ` Stephen Leake
2003-07-04  1:17                   ` James Rogers
2003-07-07  4:29                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-08  1:10                       ` James Rogers
2003-07-08 13:59                         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-09  0:12                           ` James Rogers
2003-07-09  3:00                             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-07 15:36                 ` Matthew Heaney
2003-07-14  1:39                   ` Richard Riehle
2003-07-14  2:54                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-07-16  3:14                       ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-27 13:34       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-27 23:12         ` Russ
2003-06-27 23:21           ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-28 18:51             ` Russ
2003-06-27 18:02       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-28  3:50         ` Russ
2003-06-30 15:58           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-25 19:44 ` Bill Findlay
2003-06-26  2:06   ` Russ
2003-06-26  2:33     ` Bill Findlay [this message]
2003-06-26  5:54     ` Karel Miklav
2003-06-26 12:17     ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-26 12:52     ` Joseph Dalton
2003-06-26 18:11     ` Frank J. Lhota
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-27  5:35 christoph.grein
2003-06-27  9:57 ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-27 14:11 ` Georg Bauhaus
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