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From: "Jeffrey R. Carter" <spam.not.jrcarter@acm.not.spam.org>
Subject: Re: Avatox 1.0: Trouble with encoding in Windows
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 19:57:20 GMT
Date: 2006-09-17T19:57:20+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AMhPg.192595$1i1.43649@attbi_s72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <soQOg.16661$E02.6593@newsb.telia.net>

Bj�rn Persson wrote:
> 
> Because it's a bad idea to invent new programming languages all the 
> time. It's not only a waste of time to start your project by designing a 
> language and writing a compiler; the language would also most likely be 
> much worse than some of the existing languages you could have used. 
> Having one well-designed language that can be used in all projects is 
> much better. (Those were the reasons why Ada was created, as I've 
> understood it.) English is � unfortunately � the /lingua franca/ of our 
> time, so using English words for keywords is a better choice than using 
> German words.

Designing a language for a project is sometimes a good idea. I recall a 
report about a class project where there was actual hardware to control 
(I think it was a clothes washing machine). When the students tried to 
control the hardware directly from the general-purpose language, there 
were lots of failures. When they created a problem-specific language, 
with statements such as Fill_Tank (Load_Size), Drain_Tank, 
Start_Agitation, and so on, success was much more common.

Of course, these statements were really calls to a library, and the 
program was really in the general-purpose language.

But I agree that one doesn't want to design and implement a language for 
each project. Just for each language. Ada was designed for the US DOD, 
an English-speaking organization. Do you think a similar project in 
China should have used English reserved words? Or that it would have 
been fine for the Green team to have used French reserved words?

-- 
Jeff Carter
"Run away! Run away!"
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-17 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-11  8:24 Avatox 1.0: Trouble with encoding in Windows Manuel Collado
2006-09-11 10:35 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-11 13:49   ` Avatox 1.1: " Manuel Collado
2006-09-11 16:43     ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-11 17:50     ` Björn Persson
2006-09-12  0:06       ` Marc A. Criley
2006-09-12  8:35         ` Manuel Collado
2006-09-13  0:01   ` Avatox 1.0: " Randy Brukardt
2006-09-13  9:01     ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-13 19:28       ` Björn Persson
2006-09-14  6:34         ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-14 23:09           ` Björn Persson
2006-09-14 22:13         ` Björn Persson
2006-09-16  7:40         ` Martin Krischik
2006-09-16  9:43           ` Björn Persson
2006-09-16  9:59             ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-16 11:15               ` Björn Persson
2006-09-17  9:30             ` Martin Krischik
2006-09-13 10:32     ` Manuel Collado
2006-09-13 18:28       ` Björn Persson
2006-09-14  8:11         ` Manuel Collado
2006-09-13 23:05       ` Randy Brukardt
2006-09-13 11:04     ` vgodunko
2006-09-14  8:56       ` Martin Krischik
2006-09-14 21:16         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-14 22:55           ` Björn Persson
2006-09-15 23:15             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-16  7:38             ` Martin Krischik
2006-09-17 19:41               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-15  5:47           ` Martin Krischik
2006-09-15 23:16             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-16  7:31               ` Martin Krischik
2006-09-17 19:43                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-15  9:41           ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-15 23:28             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-16  9:52               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-16 10:31               ` Björn Persson
2006-09-17 19:57                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter [this message]
2006-09-18  0:06                   ` Björn Persson
2006-09-18 20:14                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-16  5:10             ` Simon Wright
2006-09-15 18:11           ` Pascal Obry
2006-09-15 18:53             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-09-15 22:29               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-09-16  7:46                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-09-15 23:35             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-09-15  5:34         ` Simon Wright
2006-09-12  9:52 ` Stephen Leake
2006-09-19  1:16   ` Marc A. Criley
2006-09-19  9:20     ` Stephen Leake
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