From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada requires too much typing!
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 21:39:28 +0200
Date: 2010-05-28T21:39:22+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9zi20cpx8981.1k41pl2rxr4en$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4c0013dc$0$6992$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net
On Fri, 28 May 2010 21:05:00 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> On 28.05.10 19:31, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 May 2010 11:52:09 -0400, John B. Matthews wrote:
>>
>>> In Java, the presence of a suitable handler for checked exceptions is
>>> enforced at compile-time:
>>>
>>> <http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/third_edition/html/exceptions.html#11.2>
>>>
>>> The feature may be regarded as controversial:
>>>
>>> <http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/essential/exceptions/runtime.html>
>>
>> BTW, this is the same issue as with Eiffel's "contracts" and Ada's
>> assertions. The problem is misuse of exceptions:
>>
>> 1. IF the exception is a part of the contracts <=> the client is supposed
>> to handle it, THEN it must be checked.
>>
>> 2. IF no client can handle it, THEN it shall not be, the program must
>> rather abort itself or break into the debugger.
>
> 2. is what Eiffel programs do, but the compiler does not check
> the presence of exception handlers for postconditions that
> may fail (and thus raise an exception). If it did, will it not
> mean exception handlers pretty much everywhere?
No. Exceptions are supposed to propagate. A propagating exception is
unhandled one.
If you confuse 1 and 2 you get troubles. Another example from Ada is
Program_Error, e.g. from Initialize/Finalize/Adjust. It is meaningless and
very harmful. If you are in 2, it is too LATE to raise anything.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2010-05-28 5:25 Ada requires too much typing! Luis Espinal
2010-05-28 6:47 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-28 15:52 ` John B. Matthews
2010-05-28 17:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-28 19:05 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-28 19:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2010-05-28 9:48 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-28 10:10 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-06-01 21:30 ` Luis Espinal
2010-06-02 11:08 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-06-05 19:58 ` Luis Espinal
2010-06-02 13:09 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-05 20:13 ` Luis Espinal
2010-06-06 4:25 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-06 8:55 ` Martin Krischik
2010-06-06 10:13 ` Simon Wright
2010-06-06 11:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-06 12:04 ` Martin Krischik
2010-06-07 8:34 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-07 9:25 ` Martin Krischik
2010-06-07 12:04 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-06-07 12:17 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-07 12:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-07 15:00 ` Martin Krischik
2010-06-08 7:46 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-08 8:53 ` Martin Krischik
2010-06-09 7:50 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-09 8:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-09 8:43 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-09 9:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-09 13:54 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-09 14:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-09 15:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-09 15:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-09 18:00 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-09 19:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-09 21:09 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-10 8:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-10 8:44 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-10 9:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-10 10:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-10 10:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-09 21:22 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-09 23:09 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-10 8:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-10 13:37 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-10 13:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-09 14:31 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-09 15:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-09 17:51 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-10 6:13 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-06-10 6:19 ` AdaMagica
2010-06-10 21:59 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-06-10 6:34 ` Vadim Godunko
2010-06-10 6:54 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-10 7:36 ` Vadim Godunko
2010-06-10 8:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-10 8:51 ` Vadim Godunko
2010-06-10 9:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-10 8:51 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-10 22:08 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-06-11 9:13 ` Stephen Leake
2010-06-10 7:20 ` AdaMagica
2010-06-10 8:57 ` Vadim Godunko
2010-06-10 10:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-10 13:47 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-06-10 19:18 ` Vadim Godunko
2010-06-10 22:08 ` Gautier write-only
2010-06-10 22:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-06-11 18:38 ` Simon Wright
2010-06-29 2:13 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-06-11 9:14 ` Stephen Leake
2010-06-11 18:03 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-06-11 9:11 ` Stephen Leake
2010-06-10 7:21 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-10 19:33 ` Simon Wright
2010-06-10 22:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-06-07 8:13 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-07 8:35 ` Martin Krischik
2010-06-07 8:43 ` Martin Krischik
2010-06-06 8:06 ` Martin Krischik
2010-06-07 18:30 ` Luis Espinal
2010-06-08 6:43 ` Martin Krischik
2010-06-08 7:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-08 9:00 ` Martin Krischik
2010-06-10 13:56 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-06-10 14:29 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-06-11 11:57 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-06-08 10:10 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-06-08 11:35 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-10 13:58 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-06-10 19:45 ` Simon Wright
2010-06-10 20:09 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-06-10 18:21 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-26 12:57 Peter C. Chapin
2010-05-26 13:29 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-26 15:56 ` Peter Hermann
2010-05-26 16:12 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-26 18:57 ` Pascal Obry
2010-05-26 19:30 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-26 14:48 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-05-27 17:10 ` Warren
2010-05-27 22:15 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-05-28 15:26 ` Warren
2010-05-30 0:49 ` BrianG
2010-05-30 7:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-30 9:17 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-30 9:51 ` Simon Wright
2010-06-02 1:42 ` BrianG
2010-05-26 15:23 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-05-26 17:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-26 19:33 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-26 21:55 ` Simon Wright
2010-05-26 23:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-27 2:07 ` Fritz Wuehler
2010-05-27 4:19 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-27 19:51 ` Warren
2010-06-03 16:54 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-06-03 16:09 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-03 16:11 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-04 11:40 ` Nicolas Cóilin Paul de Gloucester
2010-06-04 13:54 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-04 11:29 ` Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
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