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From: Marin David Condic <nobody@noplace.com>
Subject: Re: NOACE- End of the road for Ada?
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 13:25:25 GMT
Date: 2005-03-17T13:25:25+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9zf_d.5948$qW.2039@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <516_d.23836$OU1.7950@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>

adaworks@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> 
> 
> It would be really cool to have a standard interface between Ada and
> Matlab.
> 
Probably, but it would be even MORE cool if there was an entire Ada
equivalent of Matlab, et alia. The whole bundle of stuff produced by The 
Mathworks is pretty cool for the modeling world, but I think it has 
problems when people try to bring it into production. It is very 
tempting to say "Well, now that you've defined the control in the model 
world and conducted a bunch of tests on it, why don't we just compile it 
and take that code into the production box..." But the model world likes 
to play fast and loose with all the things that might cause problems in 
a production world. (For example, everything tends to be just a "real" 
number - not much type checking going on. Or not much support for 
low-level representations of data that might matter when the zeros and 
ones actually connect to the hardware. Or any number of other complaints.)

So people like to just build these models then take the code into 
production, but might it not be BETTER if the modeling tool had 
capabilities aimed at the production world? Might it not be BETTER if a 
modeling tool took into consideration the needs of and proven techniques 
of embedded software development? So if someone designed such a modeling 
tool and incorporated Ada-isms into it and had it generating Ada code, 
and it provided BETTER capabilities to the guy designing models, might 
that not create an interesting marketplace for Ada?

The same kind of thinking could be applied to other problem domains. Its 
not enough just to have a compiler and a few general tools for 
development. For the language to thrive in an environment, the tools for 
that domain must also support the language well. (or perhaps the other 
way around?)

MDC

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-17 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-10  2:33 NOACE- End of the road for Ada? Michael Card
2005-03-10  4:33 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-10 13:42   ` Michael Card
2005-03-10 21:57     ` Ludovic Brenta
2005-03-11  4:53     ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-10 21:39   ` Frank J. Lhota
2005-03-12 19:08 ` svaa
2005-03-13  1:59   ` Stephen Leake
2005-03-13 12:44     ` svaa
2005-03-13 14:22       ` Stephen Leake
2005-03-13 14:56         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-13 21:50         ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-13 23:39           ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-03-13 23:20         ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-14  0:25           ` Michael Card
2005-03-14  2:11             ` Ed Falis
2005-03-14  2:29               ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-16  4:49             ` Wes Groleau
2005-03-14  2:22           ` Jeff C
2005-03-13 17:23       ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-13 18:42 ` adaworks
2005-03-13 19:58   ` Peter C. Chapin
2005-03-13 20:14     ` Pascal Obry
2005-03-14  5:13   ` Jared
2005-03-14 13:42     ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-15  0:34       ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-15 10:52         ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-16  5:15           ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-16 17:42             ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17  2:34               ` adaworks
2005-03-17 13:25                 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2005-03-17 15:35                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-18 12:34                     ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17  4:56               ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-17 13:56                 ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-18 22:22                   ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-19 13:43                     ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-17 14:54                 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2005-03-18  1:26                   ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-30  8:46                 ` jtg
2005-03-15  4:00     ` adaworks
2005-03-16 20:18       ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-17  2:48         ` adaworks
2005-03-17  3:54         ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-03-18  2:45           ` adaworks
2005-03-18  3:45             ` Wes Groleau
2005-03-18  8:43               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-03-18 13:04               ` Robert A Duff
2005-03-18 14:03                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2005-03-20 13:47       ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-20 17:29         ` adaworks
2005-03-21 13:07           ` Marin David Condic
2005-03-21 13:59             ` Peter Hermann
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