From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Ada platforms and pricing, was: Re: a new language, designed for safety !
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 10:33:27 +0200
Date: 2014-06-24T10:33:27+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9vn9udxucq3n.1ejno042sc30t.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1d3612ad-f85a-489c-b4bc-0c23d5d67de3@googlegroups.com
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 00:52:33 -0700 (PDT), Maciej Sobczak wrote:
>> If there were user-defined task support one
>> could program this as if it were in proper tasks.
>
> Maybe not "proper tasks", but something similar that has an explicit
> interface to "push" its execution forward up to the next "switching
> point", so that the application can decide on its own when that "pushing"
> should take place.
It is alike to all software architectures based on callbacks or events,
e.g. GUI. It is fairly easy to program with callbacks so long there is not
much logic behind actions triggered by callbacks and there is little
coupling between the actions and no ordering of the actions is needed.
For complex logic it is becomes almost impossible to structure the design
along callback decomposition. It is no matter if callbacks are subprograms
or full objects (procedural vs. OO decomposition), because the lines are
already drawn. You cannot change anything. It is knitting standing on your
head.
Instead of the mess you wanted to put weight rather on the logic of the
actions, their ordering and effects, than on the callbacks (I/O events).
For this the individual callbacks which are logically coupled and ordered
need to be represented as such in the source code, visually close to each
other, best of all, as a thread of control where events pushing the actions
are actually irrelevant to the logic.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2014-06-03 1:37 a new language, designed for safety ! Nasser M. Abbasi
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2014-06-04 1:19 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-06-04 4:05 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-06-04 6:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-06-04 4:12 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-06-04 5:44 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-06-04 15:25 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-06-04 19:43 ` Robert A Duff
2014-06-04 21:32 ` Simon Clubley
2014-06-05 9:13 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-06-05 15:33 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-06-05 19:19 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-06-05 15:55 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-06-05 19:15 ` sbelmont700
2014-06-05 22:40 ` Robert A Duff
2014-06-06 15:13 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-06-06 17:51 ` G.B.
2014-06-06 18:39 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-06-06 19:43 ` Robert A Duff
2014-06-06 20:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-06-08 9:40 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-06-08 13:56 ` Robert A Duff
2014-06-08 16:13 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-06-08 17:22 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-06-08 19:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-06-09 5:30 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-06-09 7:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-06-09 16:07 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-06-10 7:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-06-10 16:31 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-06-10 16:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-06-06 18:52 ` Robert A Duff
2014-06-06 22:50 ` Simon Clubley
2014-06-23 0:40 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-06-23 0:43 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-06-23 0:51 ` Shark8
2014-06-23 1:47 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-06-23 6:46 ` Shark8
2014-06-23 14:17 ` Peter Chapin
2014-06-23 15:39 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-06-23 17:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-06-05 8:26 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-06-09 10:03 ` Pascal Obry
2014-06-10 9:36 ` Stephen Leake
2014-06-10 10:48 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-06-10 18:31 ` Pascal Obry
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2014-06-10 12:28 ` Simon Clubley
2014-06-10 12:42 ` Lucretia
2014-06-10 12:50 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-06-10 13:00 ` Lucretia
2014-06-10 14:43 ` Brad Moore
2014-06-10 15:15 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-06-10 20:28 ` Simon Clubley
2014-06-10 20:39 ` Pascal Obry
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2014-06-11 7:17 ` Pascal Obry
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2014-06-10 22:09 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-06-12 23:58 ` Shark8
2014-06-13 1:28 ` Luke A. Guest
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2014-06-26 1:36 ` Shark8
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2014-06-25 22:40 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-06-26 7:39 ` Luke A. Guest
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2014-06-11 19:22 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-06-12 11:48 ` Simon Clubley
2014-06-12 16:59 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-06-10 15:33 ` Lucretia
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2014-06-10 19:34 ` Tero Koskinen
2014-06-11 6:46 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-06-11 8:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-06-11 9:05 ` Simon Wright
2014-06-11 12:09 ` Simon Clubley
2014-06-11 12:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-06-11 12:42 ` björn lundin
2014-06-11 13:04 ` Lucretia
2014-06-11 12:11 ` björn lundin
2014-06-10 19:49 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-06-10 22:09 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-06-11 9:01 ` Simon Wright
2014-06-16 16:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-06-16 17:11 ` Ada platforms and pricing, was: " Simon Clubley
2014-06-17 19:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-06-17 20:16 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-06-18 5:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-06-18 6:34 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-06-18 19:57 ` Simon Clubley
2014-06-19 3:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-06-22 19:50 ` Simon Clubley
2014-06-22 23:38 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-06-23 6:18 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-06-23 7:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-06-23 11:17 ` Simon Wright
2014-06-23 17:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-06-23 19:21 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-06-23 20:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-06-23 21:48 ` Simon Wright
2014-06-24 1:18 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-06-24 2:15 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-06-24 7:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-06-23 21:52 ` Simon Wright
2014-06-24 1:04 ` Dan'l Miller
2014-06-26 3:24 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-06-26 3:27 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-06-24 1:01 ` Shark8
2014-06-24 10:24 ` Simon Wright
2014-06-24 11:25 ` Dan'l Miller
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