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From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: Standard Queue status
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:32:55 -0500
Date: 2001-11-30T15:32:57+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9u88r9$1v2$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1oNN7.43862$xS6.73757@www.newsranger.com

Well, like I said, it depends a lot on your relative level of paranoia. :-)

When I used to do flight-critical software, we wouldn't have done anything
with dynamic storage out of fear that somehow, some way, a corner case might
arise that threw the timing off (or something similar) and the box might
crash - or worse. Its also much harder to verify dynamic memory stuff if
you're doing real rigorous testing.

Now that I'm working on programming digital TV boxes in C (with a *real*
crappy, unstable OS! :-) with the only true realtime requirement being
"Don't annoy the user too much" the thought of dynamic memory is a lot less
scary. (Indeed, its being used all over the place and I think its one of the
chief causes of our little box crashing a lot at the moment.) Worst case -
the box crashes & reboots and maybe someone is annoyed that you messed up
their attempt to record a rerun of "Gilligans Island".

Mind you, there's always a variety of product warranty and liability issues.
Not to mention corporate reputation, etc. Hence you still don't want any
instability if at all possible. But its easier to tolerate a potential
source of software errors in some environments than in others.

MDC
--
Marin David Condic
Senior Software Engineer
Pace Micro Technology Americas    www.pacemicro.com
Enabling the digital revolution
e-Mail:    marin.condic@pacemicro.com
Web:      http://www.mcondic.com/


"Ted Dennison" <dennison@telepath.com> wrote in message
news:1oNN7.43862$xS6.73757@www.newsranger.com...
>
> Stuff like that can happen in our system quite easily. For example, a user
who
> knows just enough about the system to be dangerous could theoriticaly
decide
> that the navigational model is behaving too sluggishly for them, and go
into our
> configuration file and bump its iteration rate up to 30Hz where it doesn't
even
> have time to complete before the next iteration. Then they will start to
get
> overrun messages all over the place. Our answer to this is: "Don't do
that". The
> configuration stuff is there for diagnotic purposes, not for casual
twiddling.
>
> ---
> T.E.D.    homepage   - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html
>
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
> However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.





  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-30 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-27  1:19 Queue steve
2001-11-27  2:07 ` Queue Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-27 19:30   ` Queue Ted Dennison
2001-11-27 19:45     ` Queue Marin David Condic
2001-11-27 20:29       ` Queue Matthew Heaney
2001-11-27 20:55         ` Queue Marin David Condic
2001-11-27 21:20           ` Queue Ehud Lamm
2001-11-27 22:13             ` Queue Marin David Condic
2001-11-27 22:35               ` Queue Ehud Lamm
2001-11-28 14:53                 ` Queue Marin David Condic
2001-11-28 16:40                   ` Standard Library, Again (was: Re: Queue) Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-28 18:37           ` Standard Queue status Ted Dennison
2001-11-28 21:02             ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-28 21:40               ` Ehud Lamm
2001-11-29 14:42                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29 15:23                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-29 17:58                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29  7:23             ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-11-29 14:55               ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29 15:58               ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-29 16:27                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-29 18:10                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30  2:00                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-30 15:07                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 20:19                 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-11-29 13:47             ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-29 15:53               ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-29 18:10                 ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-29 18:58                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-29 18:21                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29 19:12                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-29 20:25                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29 22:49                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-30 15:15                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 15:32                           ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-11-30 19:49                             ` tmoran
2001-11-29 18:29               ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-29 19:27                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-29 20:35                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29 22:54                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-30  1:51                       ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-29 18:37               ` Ted Dennison
2001-12-04 19:48                 ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-04 20:27                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29 22:29               ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-30  2:19                 ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-04 19:51                   ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-30 15:19                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 12:40               ` Simon Wright
2001-11-27 21:38         ` Queue Brian Rogoff
2001-11-28  8:07           ` Queue Mats Karlssohn
2001-11-30  4:49             ` Queue Brian Rogoff
2001-11-30 15:30               ` Queue Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 21:02                 ` Queue Ehud Lamm
2001-11-30 21:07               ` Queue Ehud Lamm
2001-11-28  8:28           ` Queue Thomas Wolf
2001-11-28 17:27           ` Queue Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 22:11             ` Queue Ehud Lamm
2001-11-28  8:01         ` Queue Mats Karlssohn
2001-11-28  7:48       ` Queue Mats Karlssohn
2001-11-28 15:39         ` Queue Marin David Condic
2001-11-29  7:35           ` Queue Mats Karlssohn
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