From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: Queue
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:55:08 -0500
Date: 2001-11-27T20:55:09+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9u0ujd$rhg$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: u07tltbt28eq1d@corp.supernews.com
Well, I guess the problem I see is that we could easily keep going back and
forth on what constitutes the best possible solution indefinitely. We'd be
far better off getting something as an answer - even if it is imperfect.
Maybe its hopeless? Is it a little too much like asking "What's the best
kind of car to drive?" or "What's the best shotgun to have?" - Too many
potential uses and personal preferences to come up with a "best" answer and
nobody wants to settle for a sub-optimal answer. Maybe we'd end up with
Lists and Maps if the next standard just has them show up in a sneak attack,
but it seems that this process is not likely to get a consensus strong
enough to get a result.
I think that Ted proposed a package that would make a good start. But that
rather quickly shot off in a few dozen directions with objections on all
sorts of fronts - and it was only one little lonely list package. I could
still imagine taking it pretty much "as is" and adding to it a map package
that looked similar and declaring that "Version 1.0". Any chance that
proposal would gain any support? Anybody else have a proposed answer?
I think if we don't commit to some direction pretty soon, the stagnation and
deadlock will result in a lack of interest and this will wither on the vine.
Too bad. Its a good idea and a noble goal.
MDC
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"Matthew Heaney" <mheaney@on2.com> wrote in message
news:u07tltbt28eq1d@corp.supernews.com...
>
> No. The problem with the Booch Components is that they use inheritance,
> which is completely unnecessary unless you require dynamic polymorphic
> behavior.
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> The C++ STL doesn't use inheritance. The use of iterators and algorithms
> abstracts away the details of specific containers, and thus treats all
> collections as a "sequence." This is a form of static polymorphism.
>
> If you do need a dynamically polymorphic container (a stack, say), then
you
> can implement that yourself using an Adapter pattern.
>
> The standard library should provide only the most basic primitives, from
> which higher-level abstractions can be constructed.
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-11-27 1:19 Queue steve
2001-11-27 2:07 ` Queue Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-27 19:30 ` Queue Ted Dennison
2001-11-27 19:45 ` Queue Marin David Condic
2001-11-27 20:29 ` Queue Matthew Heaney
2001-11-27 20:55 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-11-27 21:20 ` Queue Ehud Lamm
2001-11-27 22:13 ` Queue Marin David Condic
2001-11-27 22:35 ` Queue Ehud Lamm
2001-11-28 14:53 ` Queue Marin David Condic
2001-11-28 16:40 ` Standard Library, Again (was: Re: Queue) Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-28 18:37 ` Standard Queue status Ted Dennison
2001-11-28 21:02 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-28 21:40 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-11-29 14:42 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29 15:23 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-29 17:58 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29 7:23 ` Mats Karlssohn
2001-11-29 14:55 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29 15:58 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-29 16:27 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-29 18:10 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 2:00 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-30 15:07 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 20:19 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-11-29 13:47 ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-29 15:53 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-29 18:10 ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-29 18:58 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-29 18:21 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29 19:12 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-29 20:25 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29 22:49 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-30 15:15 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 15:32 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-30 19:49 ` tmoran
2001-11-29 18:29 ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-29 19:27 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-29 20:35 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29 22:54 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-30 1:51 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-29 18:37 ` Ted Dennison
2001-12-04 19:48 ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-04 20:27 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-29 22:29 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-30 2:19 ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-04 19:51 ` Stephen Leake
2001-11-30 15:19 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 12:40 ` Simon Wright
2001-11-27 21:38 ` Queue Brian Rogoff
2001-11-28 8:07 ` Queue Mats Karlssohn
2001-11-30 4:49 ` Queue Brian Rogoff
2001-11-30 15:30 ` Queue Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 21:02 ` Queue Ehud Lamm
2001-11-30 21:07 ` Queue Ehud Lamm
2001-11-28 8:28 ` Queue Thomas Wolf
2001-11-28 17:27 ` Queue Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 22:11 ` Queue Ehud Lamm
2001-11-28 8:01 ` Queue Mats Karlssohn
2001-11-28 7:48 ` Queue Mats Karlssohn
2001-11-28 15:39 ` Queue Marin David Condic
2001-11-29 7:35 ` Queue Mats Karlssohn
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2001-11-30 16:24 Queue steve
2001-12-01 19:32 ` Queue Jeffrey Carter
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