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From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: Joint Strike Fighter
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:41:56 -0500
Date: 2001-11-01T14:41:57+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9rrmvl$98d$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.1004589967.2606.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org

A lot of things go into the decision to move to C++. The techies may want it
because it is what they know or what they want to know for career
enhancement. Management may favor it because they figure its easier to hire
people who know C++, it has the appearance of where the computer industry is
going and "Nobody ever got fired for buying C++..." lemming mentality.

The point being that there may be emotional, human, self-interest and
business reasons that some companies/projects abandon Ada in favor of C++,
but there are seldom any strong technical reasons for doing so. Hence,
preserving and promoting Ada in more areas is going to have to address the
same things. We've probably won the technical argument by now, but we have
to also win the business and human-factors arguments as well.

MDC
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Marin David Condic
Senior Software Engineer
Pace Micro Technology Americas    www.pacemicro.com
Enabling the digital revolution
e-Mail:    marin.condic@pacemicro.com
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"JF Harrison" <madscientist@colulus.net> wrote in message
news:mailman.1004589967.2606.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org...
>   I am a software engineer at LMCO and have no interest in C++.  I
> specifically applied for a job using Ada 95, coming out of the dot bomb
> arena.  I think you are focusing on the wrong people in wondering why it
has
> gone C++.  Functional managers want things done a certain way, and they
> decide.  If programmers newly hired dont even know what Ada is (I've met
> some like that), they aren't going to even have an opinion on the matter,
> much less feedback if asked. ( "Would you like a job programming in
Ada?" -
> "Um, what's that?")  And of course many younger employees want C++ because
> that is what they learned in school (in many cases) so that's their skill
> set, or, yes, they want to get paid to learn it in the first place, for
job
> security and mobility.
>






  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-01 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-29  4:55 Joint Strike Fighter Richard Riehle
2001-10-29 11:11 ` Ian
2001-10-31  6:38   ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-31 13:38     ` David Botton
2001-10-31 16:15     ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-31 16:25       ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-01  4:44         ` JF Harrison
2001-11-01 14:41           ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-11-03 16:58             ` Richard Riehle
2001-11-03 18:52               ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-05 15:30                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-06  2:07                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-06 16:46                   ` Rex Reges
2001-11-06 18:17                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-06 19:07                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-06 21:19                       ` Rex Reges
2001-11-06 23:01                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-08 14:55                         ` Rex Reges
     [not found]                         ` <Wa+tfCvHgQXH@eisner.e <3BEA9CED.8C6BF839@reges.org>
2001-11-08 15:43                           ` Ian Wild
2001-11-08 22:18                             ` Rex Reges
2001-11-22  6:25                               ` David Thompson
2001-11-08 16:23                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-11-08 13:53                     ` Marc A. Criley
2001-11-08 22:15                       ` Rex Reges
2001-11-09 12:44                         ` Marc A. Criley
2001-11-09 15:41                           ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-09 15:35                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-10  6:56                       ` john flynn
2001-11-04  1:08               ` David Botton
2001-11-05 14:59               ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-01 14:55           ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-01 21:47           ` P Norby
2001-11-02 17:02           ` P Norby
     [not found]           ` <003301c163c0$289f8c60$45d82c41@vaio>
2001-11-02 19:54             ` JF Harrison
     [not found]             ` <002a01c163d8$25bb4440$2702a8c0@WorkGroup>
2001-11-02 20:40               ` JF Harrison
2001-11-01 11:38         ` Ian
2001-11-01 14:51           ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-02  9:08           ` John McCabe
2001-11-02 16:16             ` Ian
2001-11-02 17:04               ` John McCabe
2001-11-29 16:48           ` Matthew Heaney
2001-11-29 17:12             ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-30 12:49               ` Simon Wright
2001-11-30 14:46                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-11-30 16:37                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-11-30 15:03                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 16:26                   ` Simon Wright
2001-11-30 16:39                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-30 17:08                     ` Pat Rogers
2001-11-30 22:53                     ` Chad R. Meiners
2001-12-01  8:08                       ` Simon Wright
2001-10-29 15:02 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-29 17:55 ` Paul A Storm
2001-11-01  4:46   ` Richard Riehle
2001-11-02 20:03 ` Dirk Craeynest
2001-11-07  3:57 ` Vincent Marciante
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