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From: "Nasser Abbasi" <nma@12000.org>
Subject: Re: The future of Ada is at risk
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 03:54:41 -0800
Date: 2008-01-07T03:54:41-08:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9qogj.27324$Gr4.24727@newsfe08.phx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wccodbxnb8b.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com


"Robert A Duff" <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote in message 
news:wccodbxnb8b.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com...
> "Nasser Abbasi" <nma@12000.org> writes:
>
>> I'd love to use Ada for Scientific and numerical applications, but is has
>> limited standard libraries for this.
>
> What do you think of the Ada 2005 additions in the numerics
> area?
>
> - Bob

There was a talk here about Ada 2005 and numeric 5 months ago. Here was my 
little comment on it in this thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ada/browse_thread/thread/c3d0e99376a4f379/86d9c043bd88a9d1?hl=en&lnk=st&q=Interested+about+number+crunching+in+Ada#86d9c043bd88a9d1

I think Ada is great for numerical work, as a language. The problem is that 
the function set and libraries for this sort of work are too small for Ada. 
Compare for example work being done using Python for scientific computing

http://www.scipy.org/

Now many people, it seems, are starting to use python for numerical work (I 
don't, I use Mathematica, Maple and Matlab mostly). But there is even an 
open source computer algebra system (sage) which uses python.  (Is python, 
at the language level, better designed than Ada for this sort of work? I do 
not think so, but it has much more libraries and packages than Ada does).

I do not think it is enough to have good language. What is more needed are 
more libraries and packages that come with it.  I think Ada 2005 does good 
job in improving this situation, but it is still too limited, when compared 
to what one can do with other systems.

It is also possible that dynamic and interpretive languages/environments is 
what becoming popular, due to the flexibility they offer the user: issue a 
command, and see the result right away, plot a function and see the result 
right there, and the old edit/compile/link/run type languages are becoming 
less popular.

Nasser






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Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-29  3:06 The future of Ada is at risk Rico Secada
2007-12-29 10:19 ` Pascal Obry
2007-12-29 19:24   ` Jerry van Dijk
2007-12-29 11:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-12-29 11:21 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-30 12:30   ` Florian Weimer
2007-12-30 19:42     ` okellogg
2007-12-30 20:22       ` Florian Weimer
2007-12-31  0:21         ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-12-30 23:30       ` Simon Wright
2007-12-31  8:12     ` I. Levashew
2007-12-31  8:43       ` Florian Weimer
2007-12-31 10:16       ` Rico Secada
2007-12-31 10:31         ` Florian Weimer
2007-12-31 15:20         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-31 21:35           ` Paul
2008-01-01 12:41           ` Florian Weimer
2007-12-29 16:19 ` I. Levashew
2007-12-29 16:24 ` anon
2007-12-29 19:16   ` Rico Secada
2007-12-30  0:38     ` The future of C# " Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-07  8:01   ` The future of Ada " Nasser Abbasi
2008-01-07 11:09     ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-07 11:54       ` Nasser Abbasi [this message]
2007-12-30  8:04 ` Phaedrus
2007-12-30  8:56   ` Pascal Obry
2007-12-30 21:42     ` Phaedrus
2007-12-30 23:08       ` Brian May
2007-12-30 23:32         ` Phaedrus
2007-12-31 12:33       ` I. Levashew
2008-01-02 10:46         ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-12-30 11:08   ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-12-30 22:23     ` Phaedrus
2007-12-30 21:30   ` adaworks
2007-12-30 23:33     ` Phaedrus
2007-12-31  0:33   ` Samuel Tardieu
2008-01-01 14:14 ` Gautier
2008-01-01 14:46   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-04  8:45 ` Agyaras
2008-01-04  9:36   ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-04 13:13   ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-06  9:34     ` Agyaras
2008-01-06 10:26       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-06 12:03       ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-06 13:03       ` Frank J. Lhota
2008-01-07  3:46       ` Brian May
2008-01-08  2:22       ` Randy Brukardt
2008-01-04 23:17   ` Brian May
2008-01-05 10:22   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-05 15:16     ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-05 15:36       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-05 15:46         ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-05 16:39           ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-05 17:14           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-06 22:08             ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-09  8:19   ` ahab
2008-01-05 10:21 ` Michael Bode
2008-01-05 10:30   ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-05 10:55     ` Michael Bode
2008-01-05 13:09       ` Ludovic Brenta
2008-01-05 13:32         ` Michael Bode
2008-01-05 20:36           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-05 22:50             ` Michael Bode
2008-01-05 23:42               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-05 11:11     ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-05 11:40       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-05 13:29         ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-05 14:35           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-05 17:42             ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-05 18:40               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-05 23:47             ` Brian May
2008-01-06  7:03               ` Vadim Godunko
2008-01-06  8:42               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-06 12:05                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-06 12:23                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-06 20:13                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-06 20:50                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-06 22:12                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-07  0:11                 ` Brian May
2008-01-07  5:23                   ` Per Sandberg
2008-01-08  0:04                     ` Brian May
2008-01-08  6:53                       ` Simon Wright
2008-01-08 14:35                         ` Vadim Godunko
2008-01-08 20:24                   ` Graham
2008-01-08 20:44                   ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-06  9:23               ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-07  0:05                 ` Brian May
2008-01-05 20:34   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-05 20:52     ` Michael Bode
2008-01-05 21:40       ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-05 23:45       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-06 11:16         ` Michael Bode
2008-01-06 19:20           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-06 20:27             ` Michael Bode
2008-01-07 10:23   ` Stephen Leake
2008-01-07 17:54     ` Michael Bode
2008-01-11  7:21 ` Phaedrus
2008-01-11  8:49   ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-01-11 13:10     ` Peter C. Chapin
2008-01-11 15:41     ` Hyman Rosen
2008-01-12 14:31       ` Surfer
2008-01-12 20:54         ` Gautier
2008-01-11 19:58     ` Tero Koskinen
2008-01-11 21:41       ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-11 13:02   ` framefritti
2008-01-11 15:29     ` Peter C. Chapin
2008-01-11 17:24       ` Gary Scott
2008-01-11 18:20   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-11 18:51     ` Gary Scott
2008-01-12  0:21       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-01-12  8:15         ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-12 10:11           ` Brian May
2008-01-12 10:24             ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-12 17:43               ` Gary Scott
2008-01-12 18:14                 ` Pascal Obry
2008-01-12 22:24                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-13  3:54                     ` Ray Blaak
2008-01-13 14:05                       ` (see below)
2008-01-14  1:46                         ` Ray Blaak
2008-01-14  1:49                         ` Ray Blaak
2008-01-23  2:52                 ` adaworks
2008-01-12 10:47             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-01-11 22:32   ` Robert A Duff
2008-01-12  4:06     ` Phaedrus
2008-01-12 15:29       ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-01-12 20:55     ` jtg
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