From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: Sice of C++ vs Ada
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:23:32 -0400
Date: 2001-10-16T15:23:32+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9qhjdk$amu$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8sXy7.31264$ev2.37455@www.newsranger.com
Size, in and of itself, should not be the issue. Size is an issue if it
creates needless complexity and/or inhibits implementation and use. Just
because Ada is "big" (bigger than C at least) doesn't mean that the size
makes it "bad". One can always start and continue programming with a
Pascal-like subset of Ada and do just fine. The extra features do not
intrude on everyday life. To some extent this is true of C++ because you can
stick to a C-subset of the language, but I think that the instant one gets
to classes and anything in the OO realm, the C++ stuff gets far more twisted
and convoluted than does Ada with packages/tagged-types.
It would be useful to have some sort of complexity metric, but I suspect
this is not the kind of thing that lends itself to being measured in an
unambiguous way. The judgement is going to end up subjective for the most
part.
MDC
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"Ted Dennison" <dennison@telepath.com> wrote in message
news:8sXy7.31264$ev2.37455@www.newsranger.com...
> In article <87y9mcoz6s.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>, Florian Weimer says...
>
> >Anyway, I think it's rather strange to judge a language by the "size"
> >of its definition.
>
> I'd agree with that. It was Hoare's(?) comment, not mine. I was just
pointing
> out that if one takes this attitude towards Ada, then one also has to
judge C++
> as even worse.
>
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2001-10-14 2:49 ` Try J# ( was Re: J# is there ) Israel Raj T
2001-10-14 4:39 ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-10-14 5:23 ` Language design by by committee ( was Re: Try J# ( was Re: J# is there )) Israel Raj T
2001-10-14 5:50 ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-10-14 6:12 ` Israel Raj T
2001-10-14 7:23 ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-10-14 10:00 ` Israel Raj T
2001-10-14 10:34 ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-10-14 6:37 ` Israel Raj T
2001-10-14 7:18 ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-10-14 17:27 ` Mike Silva
2001-10-21 7:12 ` mike
2001-10-15 13:53 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-15 21:19 ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-15 21:43 ` "Size" of Ada vs. C++ Ted Dennison
2001-10-16 6:51 ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-16 8:53 ` Robert*
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2001-10-16 15:23 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-10-17 5:39 ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-16 14:07 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-15 22:27 ` Language design by by committee ( was Re: Try J# ( was Re: J# is there )) minyard
2001-10-16 7:00 ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-16 7:01 ` "Size" of Ada vs. C++ " Florian Weimer
2001-10-16 15:30 ` minyard
2001-10-20 0:54 ` Language design by by committee ( was Re: Try J# ( was Re: J# " Richard Riehle
2001-10-15 9:18 ` Philip Anderson
2001-10-15 1:54 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-15 2:20 ` Darren New
2001-10-15 16:44 ` Ray Blaak
2001-10-15 17:12 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-15 18:12 ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-16 4:09 ` Tim Tyler
2001-10-16 6:01 ` Ray Blaak
2001-10-16 14:21 ` Arthur Evans Jr
2001-10-17 9:35 ` Where is jean Ichibiah now ? Israel Raj T
2001-10-17 11:57 ` john
2001-10-17 14:38 ` Israel Raj T
2001-10-17 14:08 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-18 8:17 ` JTK
2001-10-16 14:23 ` Language design by by committee ( was Re: Try J# ( was Re: J# is there )) Arthur Evans Jr
2001-10-16 14:19 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-16 19:15 ` Darren New
2001-10-16 14:49 ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-13 2:15 ` David Thompson
2001-10-15 19:57 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-15 21:01 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-16 4:01 ` Tim Tyler
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