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From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: Language design by by committee ( was Re: Try J# ( was Re: J# is there ))
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:01:06 -0400
Date: 2001-10-15T21:01:08+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9qfiqk$7sg$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3BCB3F96.20817310@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com

Well, here is a sad thing about the human condition. We'd all like to think
that we base our decisions about what we prefer on logic and rationality,
yet all too often, its the reverse. We decide what we like, then we go about
looking for reasons and logic to support our prejudices.

Too many people have based their decisions about Ada on hearsay,
misinformation, cursory glances and preconceived notions. Its too bad
because they end up missing out on what they could learn from the language -
even if they were using something else more regularly. Most of the Ada crowd
has some reasonable level of experience with things like C++ and Java and,
sometimes we irrationally beat up on them because they aren't what we are
used to or prefer. We can be guilty of the same prejudices.

I think many times the criticisms are fair and balanced since most of us Ada
guys know there are applications where we are better off using C++ or Java.
If we know C++ and Java with some level of intimacy and still prefer Ada,
then perhaps that gives us some credibility that the other side may not
have. I've constructed and worked on major systems built in C & C++. Can
your garden variety Ada critic say the same? I'm sure others from C.L.A
could tell similar stories.

MDC
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Marin David Condic
Senior Software Engineer
Pace Micro Technology Americas    www.pacemicro.com
Enabling the digital revolution
e-Mail:    marin.condic@pacemicro.com
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"Wes Groleau" <wwgrol@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> wrote in message
news:3BCB3F96.20817310@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com...
>
> It's a defense mechanism.  If something is
> reasonable and logical, the only way to fight
> it is hype and emotion.
>
> Like I was recently informed elsewhere,
> "that article was on an anarchist web-site,
> therefore its medical journal citations are
> meaningless."
>






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2001-10-14  2:49           ` Try J# ( was Re: J# is there ) Israel Raj T
2001-10-14  4:39             ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-10-14  5:23               ` Language design by by committee ( was Re: Try J# ( was Re: J# is there )) Israel Raj T
2001-10-14  5:50                 ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-10-14  6:12                   ` Israel Raj T
2001-10-14  7:23                     ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-10-14 10:00                       ` Israel Raj T
2001-10-14 10:34                         ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-10-14  6:37                   ` Israel Raj T
2001-10-14  7:18                     ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-10-14 17:27                       ` Mike Silva
2001-10-21  7:12                         ` mike
2001-10-15 13:53                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-15 21:19                         ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-15 21:43                           ` "Size" of Ada vs. C++ Ted Dennison
2001-10-16  6:51                             ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-16  8:53                               ` Robert*
     [not found]                               ` <8sXy7.31264$ev2.37455@www.newsranger.com>
2001-10-16 15:23                                 ` Sice of C++ vs Ada Marin David Condic
2001-10-17  5:39                               ` "Size" of Ada vs. C++ Richard Riehle
2001-10-16 14:07                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-15 22:27                           ` Language design by by committee ( was Re: Try J# ( was Re: J# is there )) minyard
2001-10-16  7:00                             ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-16  7:01                             ` "Size" of Ada vs. C++ " Florian Weimer
2001-10-16 15:30                               ` minyard
2001-10-20  0:54                         ` Language design by by committee ( was Re: Try J# ( was Re: J# " Richard Riehle
2001-10-15  9:18                     ` Philip Anderson
2001-10-15  1:54                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-15  2:20                   ` Darren New
2001-10-15 16:44                 ` Ray Blaak
2001-10-15 17:12                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-15 18:12                   ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-16  4:09                     ` Tim Tyler
2001-10-16  6:01                       ` Ray Blaak
2001-10-16 14:21                         ` Arthur Evans Jr
2001-10-17  9:35                           ` Where is jean Ichibiah now ? Israel Raj T
2001-10-17 11:57                             ` john
2001-10-17 14:38                               ` Israel Raj T
2001-10-17 14:08                             ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-18  8:17                               ` JTK
2001-10-16 14:23                         ` Language design by by committee ( was Re: Try J# ( was Re: J# is there )) Arthur Evans Jr
2001-10-16 14:19                       ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-16 19:15                       ` Darren New
2001-10-16 14:49                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-13  2:15                       ` David Thompson
2001-10-15 19:57                   ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-15 21:01                     ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-10-16  4:01                   ` Tim Tyler
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