From: Robert*@ <Robert_member@newsguy.com>
Subject: Re: is Ada dying?
Date: 15 Oct 2001 03:24:09 -0700
Date: 2001-10-15T03:24:09-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9qedg903km@drn.newsguy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3bca9c74.1660187@news.demon.co.uk
In article <3bca9c74.1660187@news.demon.co.uk>, john.mccabe@emrad.com.nospam
says...
>
>
>Of course it is - Pascal was designed as a teaching language, Java
>wasn't designed.
hi John,
did you mean to cut off the sentense above as is, i.e. did you mean to
say that java was not designed, period, or that it was not designed
to be a teaching language?
I think that software is becomming a more component based, where
most programmers know how to use those pieces of software as a black
box, and so many do not learn the more basic things in programming,
like data structures and records (in Java, programmers do not even
know what a record is :). These things are not learned well. Java
programmers do not even know too well about enumeration and parameters
passing mehanism, but know how to create an object or extend one and
use an interface.
speaking of records. in true OO, the concept of a record does not exist
really. All what you have is an object, which contains attributes (state
information). So, I can sort of understand when a java programmer ask me
what is a record?
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2001-10-07 19:31 is Ada dying? Ralph M�ritz
2001-10-07 19:42 ` martin.m.dowie
2001-10-07 21:03 ` robert
2001-10-08 16:42 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-08 17:33 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09 8:02 ` Reinert Korsnes
2001-10-08 8:56 ` John McCabe
2001-10-08 21:53 ` martin.m.dowie
2001-10-09 8:13 ` John McCabe
2001-10-09 9:12 ` Martin Dowie
2001-10-09 10:39 ` John McCabe
2001-10-09 11:48 ` Martin Dowie
2001-10-09 12:58 ` Peter Amey
2001-10-09 14:51 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-10 8:08 ` John McCabe
2001-10-09 13:12 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09 14:40 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-10 8:13 ` John McCabe
2001-10-10 17:45 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-11 8:38 ` John McCabe
2001-10-07 20:09 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-07 20:56 ` Ralph M�ritz
2001-10-08 23:49 ` Poul-Erik Andreasen
2001-10-09 8:19 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-09 13:38 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09 14:50 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 16:05 ` James Rogers
2001-10-09 20:30 ` Al Christians
2001-10-09 20:32 ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-10 17:04 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-10-10 17:02 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-10-10 19:14 ` Robert*
2001-10-07 20:09 ` David Botton
2001-10-08 0:46 ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-08 1:23 ` David Botton
2001-10-08 4:02 ` Robert*
2001-10-08 4:49 ` James Rogers
2001-10-08 5:42 ` Navid Azimi
2001-10-08 6:11 ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-08 16:49 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-08 9:26 ` John English
2001-10-08 14:37 ` James Rogers
2001-10-08 17:05 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-08 6:09 ` Robert*
2001-10-08 15:35 ` James Rogers
2001-10-08 17:02 ` Robert*
2001-10-08 18:06 ` Martin Dowie
2001-10-08 18:44 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 3:42 ` minyard
2001-10-12 14:21 ` martin.m.dowie
2001-10-13 17:18 ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-08 18:17 ` James Rogers
2001-10-08 18:42 ` David Starner
2001-10-11 9:22 ` AG
2001-10-08 19:22 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-09 3:11 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 4:28 ` tmoran
2001-10-09 4:54 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 6:23 ` tmoran
2001-10-09 19:44 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-09 20:41 ` James Rogers
2001-10-08 19:55 ` Dalen Kruse
2001-10-09 3:33 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 10:41 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-09 15:21 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-09 16:12 ` translations [OT] Wes Groleau
2001-10-09 11:01 ` is Ada dying? Florian Weimer
2001-10-09 12:40 ` John English
2001-10-09 14:38 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 16:22 ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-10 9:09 ` John English
2001-10-10 9:16 ` John English
2001-10-08 8:44 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 4:49 ` Navid Azimi
2001-10-09 9:44 ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-09 10:00 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-09 10:06 ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-08 8:59 ` is Ada dying?(Perhaps a CPAN network is in order?) McDoobie
2001-10-07 20:49 ` is Ada dying? Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-08 9:30 ` John English
2001-10-08 0:19 ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-08 5:45 ` Michael Bode
2001-10-09 2:45 ` James Rogers
2001-10-09 5:33 ` Michael Bode
2001-10-09 15:49 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-09 16:23 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-28 8:25 ` Hyman Rosen
2001-10-28 9:53 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-28 17:20 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-29 16:36 ` Tony Gair
2001-10-09 14:10 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09 15:14 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-09 15:32 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-08 6:40 ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-08 7:38 ` Robert*
2001-10-08 9:31 ` John McCabe
2001-10-08 20:25 ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-09 8:18 ` John McCabe
2001-10-09 15:10 ` Gary Scott
2001-10-10 8:15 ` John McCabe
2001-10-18 1:37 ` Gary Scott
2001-10-18 13:16 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-18 16:01 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-18 17:54 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-18 19:06 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-19 0:00 ` Gary Scott
2001-10-10 5:03 ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-10 8:25 ` John McCabe
2001-10-10 17:41 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-11 8:42 ` John McCabe
2001-10-10 13:38 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 8:41 ` John McCabe
2001-10-11 13:53 ` Ada on the 1750a (was Re: is Ada dying?) Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 16:21 ` John McCabe
2001-10-08 17:16 ` is Ada dying? Ted Dennison
2001-10-08 14:59 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-08 15:02 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-08 18:11 ` David Starner
2001-10-09 14:42 ` Vincent Marciante
2001-10-08 17:25 ` chris.danx
2001-10-08 19:57 ` Gary Scott
2001-10-08 20:56 ` chris.danx
2001-10-09 15:06 ` Gary Scott
2001-10-09 14:15 ` John English
2001-10-09 17:22 ` chris.danx
2001-10-09 21:42 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-09 22:49 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-11 12:11 ` webwarrior
2001-10-13 10:36 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-15 8:21 ` John McCabe
2001-10-15 10:24 ` Robert* [this message]
2001-10-15 16:10 ` John McCabe
2001-10-15 20:03 ` Robert*
2001-10-15 22:05 ` minyard
2001-10-15 22:16 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-16 2:01 ` minyard
2001-10-16 12:53 ` John McCabe
2001-10-15 19:43 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-15 20:07 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-17 15:05 ` Israel Raj T
2001-10-17 16:50 ` John McCabe
2001-10-17 17:50 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-17 19:40 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-17 20:31 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 12:29 ` why not "standardize" the Booch Components? (was Re: is Ada dying?) Pat Rogers
2001-10-11 13:23 ` why not Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 16:14 ` minyard
2001-10-11 18:10 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-10-11 19:37 ` Ted Dennison
2001-12-01 17:24 ` Harri J Haataja
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2001-10-11 20:34 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-12 13:44 ` Ted Dennison
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2001-10-15 13:43 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 14:14 ` why not "standardize" the Booch Components? (was Re: is Ada dying?) Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 14:46 ` why not Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 14:37 ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-11 15:39 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 15:24 ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-11 18:55 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 15:04 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 15:27 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 14:46 ` why not "standardize" the Booch Components? (was Re: is Ada dying?) Pat Rogers
2001-10-11 15:30 ` why not Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 20:52 ` why not "standardize" the Booch Components? (was Re: is Ada dying?) Simon Wright
2001-10-11 15:26 ` Robert*
2001-10-11 16:02 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 15:56 ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-11 17:50 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 18:59 ` why not Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 19:20 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-12 0:10 ` why not "standardize" the Booch Components? (was Re: is Ada dying?) Pat Rogers
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2001-10-12 13:51 ` Pat Rogers
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2001-10-12 13:50 ` Ted Dennison
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2001-10-11 18:59 ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-11 19:33 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 20:52 ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-11 21:32 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-12 1:05 ` mitch
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2001-10-12 14:15 ` why not Ted Dennison
2001-10-12 13:39 ` why not "standardize" the Booch Components? (was Re: is Ada dying?) Simon Wright
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2001-10-12 13:30 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-11 20:40 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-11 21:42 ` Marin David Condic
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2001-10-12 8:30 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
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