From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: why not "standardize" the Booch Components? (was Re: is Ada dying?)
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:18:55 -0400
Date: 2001-10-12T13:18:57+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9q6qk1$38a$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Bxqx7.411$JZ6.118851739@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com
It could very well be that customers have not been clamoring for a component
library. It could be that if anyone has mentioned it, the assumption is "we
have to build one ourselves and we have bigger fish to fry". Maybe customers
handle this for themselves. Who knows?
I think there is a big advantage to including it with the compiler
distribution in some semi-integrated manner. (id est, it is tested to
compile and run with that particular compiler and documents make it easy and
obvious to find.) After all, lots of new users of Ada may not be aware of
the existence of such products or know enough to be able to use them
effectively. Better to have it right there and ready to go. Existing Ada
users may be able to manage it for themselves, but they're the ones already
sold on it.
Maybe the ARA is the right place to start instigating. However, I suspect
that a number of the members do read this group and are aware of this and
similar discussions in the past. It would be nice to get a little casual
feedback on the idea to decide if it is worth persuing more rigorously.
MDC
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Marin David Condic
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Enabling the digital revolution
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"Pat Rogers" <progers@classwide.com> wrote in message
news:Bxqx7.411$JZ6.118851739@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>
> Occam's Razor says it is probably because nobody has asked them to do so.
> (And I'm assuming that is because they are already available off the Net.)
>
>
> > That is why I think it would be valuable to hear the vendor's opinions
on
> > what is required of some potential component library. Get three or four
> > vendors willing to say "If you guys build something like this.... we'll
> > distribute it with the compiler..." and then you've really got
something.
>
> Sounds like a question to put to the ARA...
>
>
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2001-10-07 19:31 is Ada dying? Ralph M�ritz
2001-10-07 19:42 ` martin.m.dowie
2001-10-07 21:03 ` robert
2001-10-08 16:42 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-08 17:33 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09 8:02 ` Reinert Korsnes
2001-10-08 8:56 ` John McCabe
2001-10-08 21:53 ` martin.m.dowie
2001-10-09 8:13 ` John McCabe
2001-10-09 9:12 ` Martin Dowie
2001-10-09 10:39 ` John McCabe
2001-10-09 11:48 ` Martin Dowie
2001-10-09 12:58 ` Peter Amey
2001-10-09 14:51 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-10 8:08 ` John McCabe
2001-10-09 13:12 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09 14:40 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-10 8:13 ` John McCabe
2001-10-10 17:45 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-11 8:38 ` John McCabe
2001-10-07 20:09 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-10-07 20:56 ` Ralph M�ritz
2001-10-08 23:49 ` Poul-Erik Andreasen
2001-10-09 8:19 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-09 13:38 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09 14:50 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 16:05 ` James Rogers
2001-10-09 20:30 ` Al Christians
2001-10-09 20:32 ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-10 17:04 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-10-10 17:02 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-10-10 19:14 ` Robert*
2001-10-07 20:09 ` David Botton
2001-10-08 0:46 ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-08 1:23 ` David Botton
2001-10-08 4:02 ` Robert*
2001-10-08 4:49 ` James Rogers
2001-10-08 5:42 ` Navid Azimi
2001-10-08 6:11 ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-08 16:49 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-08 9:26 ` John English
2001-10-08 14:37 ` James Rogers
2001-10-08 17:05 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-08 6:09 ` Robert*
2001-10-08 15:35 ` James Rogers
2001-10-08 17:02 ` Robert*
2001-10-08 18:06 ` Martin Dowie
2001-10-08 18:44 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 3:42 ` minyard
2001-10-12 14:21 ` martin.m.dowie
2001-10-13 17:18 ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-08 18:17 ` James Rogers
2001-10-08 18:42 ` David Starner
2001-10-11 9:22 ` AG
2001-10-08 19:22 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-09 3:11 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 4:28 ` tmoran
2001-10-09 4:54 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 6:23 ` tmoran
2001-10-09 19:44 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-09 20:41 ` James Rogers
2001-10-08 19:55 ` Dalen Kruse
2001-10-09 3:33 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 10:41 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-09 15:21 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-09 16:12 ` translations [OT] Wes Groleau
2001-10-09 11:01 ` is Ada dying? Florian Weimer
2001-10-09 12:40 ` John English
2001-10-09 14:38 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 16:22 ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-10 9:09 ` John English
2001-10-10 9:16 ` John English
2001-10-08 8:44 ` Robert*
2001-10-09 4:49 ` Navid Azimi
2001-10-09 9:44 ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-09 10:00 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-09 10:06 ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-08 8:59 ` is Ada dying?(Perhaps a CPAN network is in order?) McDoobie
2001-10-07 20:49 ` is Ada dying? Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-08 9:30 ` John English
2001-10-08 0:19 ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-08 5:45 ` Michael Bode
2001-10-09 2:45 ` James Rogers
2001-10-09 5:33 ` Michael Bode
2001-10-09 15:49 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-09 16:23 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-28 8:25 ` Hyman Rosen
2001-10-28 9:53 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-28 17:20 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-29 16:36 ` Tony Gair
2001-10-09 14:10 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09 15:14 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-09 15:32 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-08 6:40 ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-08 7:38 ` Robert*
2001-10-08 9:31 ` John McCabe
2001-10-08 20:25 ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-09 8:18 ` John McCabe
2001-10-09 15:10 ` Gary Scott
2001-10-10 8:15 ` John McCabe
2001-10-18 1:37 ` Gary Scott
2001-10-18 13:16 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-18 16:01 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-18 17:54 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-18 19:06 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-19 0:00 ` Gary Scott
2001-10-10 5:03 ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-10 8:25 ` John McCabe
2001-10-10 17:41 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-11 8:42 ` John McCabe
2001-10-10 13:38 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 8:41 ` John McCabe
2001-10-11 13:53 ` Ada on the 1750a (was Re: is Ada dying?) Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 16:21 ` John McCabe
2001-10-08 17:16 ` is Ada dying? Ted Dennison
2001-10-08 14:59 ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-08 15:02 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-08 18:11 ` David Starner
2001-10-09 14:42 ` Vincent Marciante
2001-10-08 17:25 ` chris.danx
2001-10-08 19:57 ` Gary Scott
2001-10-08 20:56 ` chris.danx
2001-10-09 15:06 ` Gary Scott
2001-10-09 14:15 ` John English
2001-10-09 17:22 ` chris.danx
2001-10-09 21:42 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-09 22:49 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-11 12:11 ` webwarrior
2001-10-13 10:36 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-10-15 8:21 ` John McCabe
2001-10-15 10:24 ` Robert*
2001-10-15 16:10 ` John McCabe
2001-10-15 20:03 ` Robert*
2001-10-15 22:05 ` minyard
2001-10-15 22:16 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-16 2:01 ` minyard
2001-10-16 12:53 ` John McCabe
2001-10-15 19:43 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-15 20:07 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-17 15:05 ` Israel Raj T
2001-10-17 16:50 ` John McCabe
2001-10-17 17:50 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-17 19:40 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-17 20:31 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 12:29 ` why not "standardize" the Booch Components? (was Re: is Ada dying?) Pat Rogers
2001-10-11 13:23 ` why not Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 16:14 ` minyard
2001-10-11 18:10 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-10-11 19:37 ` Ted Dennison
2001-12-01 17:24 ` Harri J Haataja
2001-12-04 10:18 ` Harri J Haataja
2001-10-11 20:34 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-12 13:44 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-13 7:04 ` Simon Wright
2001-10-15 13:43 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 14:14 ` why not "standardize" the Booch Components? (was Re: is Ada dying?) Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 14:46 ` why not Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 14:37 ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-11 15:39 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 15:24 ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-11 18:55 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 15:04 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 15:27 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 14:46 ` why not "standardize" the Booch Components? (was Re: is Ada dying?) Pat Rogers
2001-10-11 15:30 ` why not Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 20:52 ` why not "standardize" the Booch Components? (was Re: is Ada dying?) Simon Wright
2001-10-11 15:26 ` Robert*
2001-10-11 16:02 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 15:56 ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-11 17:50 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-11 18:59 ` why not Ted Dennison
2001-10-11 19:20 ` Marin David Condic
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2001-10-11 18:59 ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-11 19:33 ` Marin David Condic
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