From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: Is Linux right for Embedded?
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:40:23 -0400
Date: 2001-10-04T13:40:25+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9phos9$a1f$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: slrn9rng85.220.randhol+abuse@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no
"Preben Randhol" <randhol+abuse@pvv.org> wrote in message
news:slrn9rng85.220.randhol+abuse@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no...
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2001 17:09:35 -0400, Marin David Condic wrote:
> >
> > Everything you say is true, but when talking to people who develop
> > throw-away code, the emphasis should be on time-to-market and
reliability
> > rather than long-term benefits such as reduced maintenance or reusable
code.
>
> I cannot see that Ada wouldn't accommodate on all these areas. :-)
>
My point was that Ada accommodates all of these things - its just that
long-term support costs aren't of much interest to many developers because
they don't have a "long-term" to care about. In other words, focus on what a
given user *does* care about and explain how Ada helps get them the things
that are important to them. Yes, there are long-term benefits from Ada.
There are also time-to-market benefits (because of early problem
detection/prevention, abstraction, code reuse, etc.) and end-product quality
improvemets (also from early problem detection/prevention)
>
> My hope is that the folks in the fast-moving throw-away market are
> throwing themselves out with the bath water :-) I mean "Good Enough"
> isn't "Good Enough" for the comsumer when he suddenly finds himself with
> a negative bank account on Monday morning due to an software error in a
> banks software which is fixed soonest next day more likely next week. Or
>
There is nothing wrong with throw-away code for some problem domains. Ada
can be used to develop throw-away code - it will also improve the quality of
that throw-away code. The problem isn't that code is written, used and
discarded rather than maintained/enhanced. The problem is that the
discardable code wasn't of very good quality in the first place. There is
such a thing as a "high quality paper towel" and not all towels need to be
made of terrycloth. :-)
MDC
--
Marin David Condic
Senior Software Engineer
Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com
Enabling the digital revolution
e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com
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2001-10-01 15:02 ` Is Linux right for Embedded? Marin David Condic
2001-10-01 17:39 ` bgeer
2001-10-01 17:54 ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-01 18:52 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-01 19:45 ` mike
2001-10-01 20:18 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-01 20:46 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-03 1:50 ` Lee Chang
2001-10-03 3:51 ` mike
2001-10-02 8:06 ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-10-02 14:38 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-02 18:00 ` bgeer
2001-10-02 18:40 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-02 18:44 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-02 18:59 ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-02 19:34 ` mike
2001-10-02 21:24 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-03 16:02 ` bgeer
2001-10-03 16:19 ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-03 16:45 ` Gary Scott
2001-10-03 17:12 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-03 17:39 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-03 18:10 ` Gary Scott
2001-10-03 16:23 ` Darren New
2001-10-03 16:32 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-03 17:31 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-03 17:52 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-03 20:07 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-03 20:27 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-03 20:44 ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-03 21:09 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-03 23:48 ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-04 2:58 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-04 13:40 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-10-03 23:56 ` pete
2001-10-04 4:33 ` David Bolen
2001-10-04 17:19 ` David Botton
2001-10-04 13:51 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-04 18:07 ` mike
2001-10-04 23:47 ` Rufus V. Smith
2001-10-01 18:42 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-01 19:40 ` mike
2001-10-01 21:05 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-02 17:57 ` Everett M. Greene
2001-10-02 17:43 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-02 17:50 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-02 18:46 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-02 18:37 ` Larry Kilgallen
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