From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: The Hobby Lobby was Windows CE?
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 11:35:49 -0400
Date: 2001-09-28T15:35:50+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9p25cm$g1r$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 89+wOKRxsgVW@eisner.encompasserve.org
"Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message
news:89+wOKRxsgVW@eisner.encompasserve.org...
>
> Presumably ACT is presently guaranteed that every boxed set they ship
> goes to a genuine customer who pays money.
>
> In a retail environment they would have to do with "returns" and "credits"
> and "shrinkage". I don't know who gets caught holding the bag full of
> V.n boxed sets when V.n+1 comes out, but right now ACT does not have
> to deal with retailer animosity.
>
Even if they were just selling it retail over the Internet and not dealing
with distributors/retailers, they'd still have all the problems I outlined.
(That was my interpretation of the original suggestion.) It obviously gets
more complex the instant someone tries to put it on store shelves.
> While I think it would be great to see Ada on the shelves, I doubt
> that presently it could be done at a profit, especially when you
> add in the fees paid to retailers for shelf space. How many here
> would be willing to contribute to a fund to cover those costs ?
>
I don't know about contributing to a fund, but I might be willing to become
an investor. :-)
There *might* be ways of getting an Ada compiler some exposure in retail
outlets and they *might* not cost too much to do. However, figuring out how
to do that would require considerably more information than we've got so far
(we'd have to talk to a variety of retailers and understand
terms/conditions, etc.) and it would take a very creative, and imaginative
business plan.
> Certainly contributions would _not_ be tax deductible as a charity
> contribution. What is the total amount that could be raised
> through such donations? If everybody who has posted to comp.lang.ada
> in the past year would contribute $1000 US, I don't think the result
> would cover a significant campaign.
Why would you think in terms of donations? This would be a business venture
which would have to justify its existence based on return on investment. If
it can't succeed, then the donations are a supreme waste of money. If it
*can* succeed, then why wouldn't your hypothetical donators become
hypothetical *investors*?
Imagine I said "I'll start a business to sell retail Ada. You give me money
I can use to bribe the retailers into putting my product on the shelf. If
I'm successful, I'll make millions of $$$ and I'll promise to send you a
note expressing my undying gratitude. If I fail, you're out the money you
gave me and there's no retail Ada on the shelves." How many folks would go
for that deal?
MDC
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Marin David Condic
Senior Software Engineer
Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-09-19 10:30 Windows CE? John McCabe
2001-09-20 14:56 ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-21 9:30 ` John McCabe
2001-09-21 14:13 ` Stephen Leake
2001-09-21 15:01 ` John McCabe
2001-09-22 4:12 ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-22 6:59 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-09-22 12:21 ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-22 13:41 ` Samuel Tardieu
2001-09-24 14:55 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-24 18:13 ` The Hobby Lobby was " Richard Riehle
2001-09-24 18:55 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-25 10:49 ` John McCabe
2001-09-25 14:27 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-25 16:41 ` Wes Groleau
2001-09-26 12:56 ` John McCabe
2001-09-26 16:50 ` Wes Groleau
2001-09-26 18:17 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-26 19:13 ` tmoran
2001-09-26 19:39 ` Wes Groleau
2001-09-26 19:49 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-26 19:55 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-26 21:17 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-27 13:44 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-27 15:07 ` Gary Scott
2001-09-27 15:37 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-28 13:23 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-28 13:45 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-30 14:28 ` Nils Kassube
2001-10-01 1:42 ` Gary Scott
2001-10-01 14:14 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-01 15:05 ` Nils Kassube
2001-09-29 3:10 ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-28 15:49 ` Gary Scott
2001-09-28 17:28 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-28 19:27 ` David Starner
2001-10-01 14:23 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-12 21:01 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-10-13 1:43 ` David Starner
2001-09-28 15:56 ` Chad Robert Meiners
2001-09-28 17:33 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-28 20:28 ` Aristophon
2001-09-28 20:15 ` Pascal Obry
2001-09-28 22:30 ` GNAT ftp sites/mirrors ... was:The Hobby Lobby Aristophon
2001-09-29 3:09 ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-29 18:34 ` The Hobby Lobby was Windows CE? Chad R. Meiners
2001-09-27 7:13 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-09-27 13:51 ` DuckE
2001-09-30 23:17 ` Richard Riehle
2001-09-26 2:18 ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-26 4:52 ` David Botton
2001-09-28 1:15 ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-26 12:56 ` John McCabe
2001-09-28 1:20 ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-28 8:33 ` John McCabe
2001-09-28 14:07 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-28 15:12 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-28 15:35 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-09-28 15:50 ` John McCabe
2001-09-24 20:28 ` David Botton
2001-09-24 21:42 ` Richard Riehle
2001-09-24 23:22 ` David Botton
2001-09-21 14:59 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-24 9:16 ` John McCabe
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