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From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Off Topic: NMD/Environment was: (Re: Ada and the NMD)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:25:48 -0400
Date: 2001-09-06T16:25:49+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9n882d$rsh$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3B9795E1.54B12E70@worldnet.att.net

This is all drifting way off topic and into the realm of political opinions.

Let me ask this though (now that I have marked the subject line as off
topic):

If the Kyoto treaty is such a wonderful thing, why don't the Europeans just
go ahead and sign it themselves? Why do they need us to sign it for them?
Why shouldn't the US make its own decisions about what is in the best
interest of the US and all the rest of the world can do the same? If France,
Germany, England, et alia, all *love* this treaty so much and think it is in
their best interest, well, let them put their John Handcock on the bottom
line.

Or is this some version of the "Misery Loves Company" rule?

BTW: I like the observation about "solutions" - It seems that if one
disagrees with a solution proposed by certain groups then there is some sort
of automatic condemnation as being against the *goals* of that group. Maybe
I disagree with a *lot* of opinions about how to cure crime, poverty,
unemployment, disease and ignorance. But that doesn't mean that by that same
fact, I must be in *favor* of crime, poverty, unemployment, disease and
ignorance.

MDC
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"James Rogers" <jimmaureenrogers@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3B9795E1.54B12E70@worldnet.att.net...
>
> I think you have been listening to too much propaganda and drivel
> on the news.
>
> The current US government cares deeply about the environment. It
> simply does not agree with certain international political "solutions".
>
> The US abandonment of the Kyoto treaty is not actually far from the
> EU position. In the EU politicians give verbal support for the
> Kyoto treaty but somehow fail to provide the funding necessary for
> its implementation. In the US we simply state that the Kyoto treaty is
> fundamentally flawed and will not be ratified.
>
> Any agreement to save our environment must be based upon scientific
> evidence and scientifically sound environmental management programs.
> Unfortuntely, treaties such as the one developed at the Kyoto
> conference are more about political attempts to control first world
> economies than about sound scientific efforts.
>
> President Bush has made it clear that he is willing to work for the
> improvement of the environment, so long as agreements are based
> upon a sound scientific foundation.
>






  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-06 16:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-06  4:53 Ada and the NMD Al Christians
2001-09-06 10:27 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-06 11:55   ` Florian Weimer
2001-09-06 18:03     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-07 19:31       ` Florian Weimer
2001-09-06 11:13 ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-06 13:57   ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 15:11     ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-06 15:27       ` James Rogers
2001-09-06 16:25         ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-09-06 17:57           ` Off Topic: NMD/Environment was: (Re: Ada and the NMD) chris.danx
2001-09-06 18:52             ` Darren New
2001-09-06 19:35               ` chris.danx
2001-09-06 20:01                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 21:43               ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-06 21:46                 ` Darren New
2001-09-06 22:13                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07  0:28                     ` Jeff Creem
2001-09-07  8:42                       ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07  1:27                     ` James Rogers
2001-09-07  8:56                       ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07 13:43                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-07 16:10                       ` James Rogers
2001-09-10 14:57                         ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2001-09-07 13:45                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-07 16:06                     ` Darren New
2001-09-08  1:59                       ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-09-10 14:48                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-10 15:15                       ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-09-08 16:35                     ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-10 14:35                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-10 23:01                         ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-07 13:38                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-06 18:56             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-08  0:38               ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-06 17:59         ` Ada and the NMD Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 19:39           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-06 20:15             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 21:31               ` WAY OFF TOPIC was: " Marin David Condic
2001-09-07 14:12                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-07 16:25                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-06 20:34           ` James Rogers
2001-09-06 21:02             ` OT: US Green politics (was: Ada and the NMD) Ted Dennison
2001-09-07  2:06               ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-09-07 13:59                 ` Off Topic " Marin David Condic
2001-09-07 16:19             ` Ada and the NMD Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-09-10 14:53               ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-06 22:04           ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-07 14:29             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-08  0:54             ` Larry Elmore
2001-09-06 17:21       ` Dale Pennington
2001-09-06 21:54         ` Preben Randhol
2001-09-10  5:51         ` Richard Riehle
2001-09-10 20:57           ` David Bolen
2001-09-10 21:31             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-10 21:36             ` Steve Howard
2001-09-06 17:31       ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-09 11:53         ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-09-06 12:27 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-09-06 16:34 ` William Dale
2001-09-06 19:20 ` Ada in air/missile defense systems (was: Ada and NMD) Michael P. Card
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2001-09-07 18:27 Off Topic: NMD/Environment was: (Re: Ada and the NMD) Beard, Frank
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