Ada for the JVM - publicity

Ada for the JVM - publicity

[Ehud Lamm]

An analysis of various language tools targetting hte JVM
(http://www.objectwatch.com/issue_33.htm), resulted in a list of only eight
"Possibly Commercial Languages (non-Java) ." of these eight, two  (25%) are
Ada compilers. Alas, the the article goes on to say:

<quote>
* AppletMagic, a compiler of Ada 95. I was unable to get any information on
this product.

*  JGNAT, another compiler of ADA 95 from Ada Core Technologies. I spoke to
Nancy Cruz at Ada Core Technologies who told me this work was funded by the
Defense Department. She promised me a list of customers using this product
within 15 minutes, but, as of press time (five days later) has not followed
through.
 </quote>

It would be great to learn more here, if not from the web page, about real
world users.
It may also be worthwhile, marketing-wise, to have that page updated with
more information.

--
Ehud Lamm   mslamm@mscc.huji.ac.il

Re: Ada for the JVM - publicity

[Samuel T. Harris]

Ehud Lamm wrote:
> 
> An analysis of various language tools targetting hte JVM
> (http://www.objectwatch.com/issue_33.htm), resulted in a list of only eight
> "Possibly Commercial Languages (non-Java) ." of these eight, two  (25%) are
> Ada compilers. Alas, the the article goes on to say:
> 
> <quote>
> * AppletMagic, a compiler of Ada 95. I was unable to get any information on
> this product.

A simple search via goto.com yields many references, the first
of which takes me directly to the appropriate one. I guess the
author had better things to do.

> 
> *  JGNAT, another compiler of ADA 95 from Ada Core Technologies. I spoke to
> Nancy Cruz at Ada Core Technologies who told me this work was funded by the
> Defense Department. She promised me a list of customers using this product
> within 15 minutes, but, as of press time (five days later) has not followed
> through.
>  </quote>

Since the author could not take the time to an search for appletmagic,
it is not surprising that he would not take time to check-back with
references. Note that ACT was not the only source which "failed"
to respond before press time.

> 
> It would be great to learn more here, if not from the web page, about real
> world users.
> It may also be worthwhile, marketing-wise, to have that page updated with
> more information.
> 
> --
> Ehud Lamm   mslamm@mscc.huji.ac.il

-- 
Samuel T. Harris, Senior Software Engineer II
Raytheon, Aerospace Engineering Services
"If you can make it, We can fake it!"

Re: Ada for the JVM - publicity

[Gary Scott]

Of notable absence also is REXX.  A large percentage of Mainframe JBC is
actually written in REXX rather than Java (it's so much easier).

"Samuel T. Harris" wrote:
> 
> Ehud Lamm wrote:
> >
> > An analysis of various language tools targetting hte JVM
> > (http://www.objectwatch.com/issue_33.htm), resulted in a list of only eight
> > "Possibly Commercial Languages (non-Java) ." of these eight, two  (25%) are
> > Ada compilers. Alas, the the article goes on to say:
> >
> > <quote>
> > * AppletMagic, a compiler of Ada 95. I was unable to get any information on
> > this product.
> 
> A simple search via goto.com yields many references, the first
> of which takes me directly to the appropriate one. I guess the
> author had better things to do.
> 
> >
> > *  JGNAT, another compiler of ADA 95 from Ada Core Technologies. I spoke to
> > Nancy Cruz at Ada Core Technologies who told me this work was funded by the
> > Defense Department. She promised me a list of customers using this product
> > within 15 minutes, but, as of press time (five days later) has not followed
> > through.
> >  </quote>
> 
> Since the author could not take the time to an search for appletmagic,
> it is not surprising that he would not take time to check-back with
> references. Note that ACT was not the only source which "failed"
> to respond before press time.
> 
> >
> > It would be great to learn more here, if not from the web page, about real
> > world users.
> > It may also be worthwhile, marketing-wise, to have that page updated with
> > more information.
> >
> > --
> > Ehud Lamm   mslamm@mscc.huji.ac.il
> 
> --
> Samuel T. Harris, Senior Software Engineer II
> Raytheon, Aerospace Engineering Services
> "If you can make it, We can fake it!"

Re: Ada for the JVM - publicity

[Ed Falis]

"Samuel T. Harris" wrote:
> 
> Ehud Lamm wrote:
> >
> > An analysis of various language tools targetting hte JVM
> > (http://www.objectwatch.com/issue_33.htm), resulted in a list of only eight
> > "Possibly Commercial Languages (non-Java) ." of these eight, two  (25%) are
> > Ada compilers. Alas, the the article goes on to say:
> >
> > <quote>
> > * AppletMagic, a compiler of Ada 95. I was unable to get any information on
> > this product.
> 
> A simple search via goto.com yields many references, the first
> of which takes me directly to the appropriate one. I guess the
> author had better things to do.

I sent the author a note yesterday describing how both AppletMagic and
JGNAT fulfilled his list of requirements for language-neutrality on the
JVM.

- Ed

Re: Ada for the JVM - publicity

[Ehud Lamm]

Just to clarify: I didn't mean to imply that the Ada compiler vevdors are at
fault here.

Ehud

Re: Ada for the JVM - publicity

[Ehud Lamm]

Gary Scott <Gary.L.Scott@lmtas.lmco.com> wrote in message
news:3B8D39F3.3BC83BD4@lmtas.lmco.com...
> Of notable absence also is REXX.  A large percentage of Mainframe JBC is
> actually written in REXX rather than Java (it's so much easier).


That would be NetRexx, I assume.

Ehud Lamm

Re: Ada for the JVM - publicity

[Gary Scott]

Yes.

Ehud Lamm wrote:
> 
> Gary Scott <Gary.L.Scott@lmtas.lmco.com> wrote in message
> news:3B8D39F3.3BC83BD4@lmtas.lmco.com...
> > Of notable absence also is REXX.  A large percentage of Mainframe JBC is
> > actually written in REXX rather than Java (it's so much easier).
> 
> That would be NetRexx, I assume.
> 
> Ehud Lamm