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From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: ADA os talk
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:22:43 -0400
Date: 2001-08-27T19:22:45+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9me6m5$47u$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3B8A9459.13ADA07D@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com

You might. But I don't know that RTEMS provides exactly what you might want
for writing a whole OS. I've never dealt with RTEMS in any practical sense,
but my impression was that it was essentially an RTK and some utilities that
made it possible to take something like GNAT and run it on a bare machine.
You're talking about a single process/multiple task program that uses Posix
calls to do all the tasking work. (RTEMS implementing the Posix calls, that
is to say.)

While something like this certainly has its place in the world, you have to
wonder if this is the proper starting point for a "Clean Slate" operating
system - especially where you want to target things more in the
"Workstation" family rather than the "Missile Guidance System" family. Do
you want to be stuck with its scheduling algorithm for tasks? Can it be
"grown" to have genuine processes? Do you want to be stuck using Posix calls
or would you rather have something else? All those are interesting technical
questions. And we have not yet brought up any of the licensing questions and
what that might mean.

I'm not saying this would be a bad idea - just that it would require someone
more expert in operating systems than myself looking seriously at RTEMS and
what the ultimate objective is and deciding how good a match they are.

MDC
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"Wes Groleau" <wwgrol@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> wrote in message
news:3B8A9459.13ADA07D@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com...
>
> I still don't understand why you couldn't take RTEMS or something like
> and add the features needed by a non-embedded OS.  Which is almost
> what Marin was saying in the part I snipped.
>






  reply	other threads:[~2001-08-27 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-26 23:00 ADA os talk Tony Gair
2001-08-27  3:28 ` Mike Silva
2001-08-27  4:58   ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-08-27 14:44     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27 18:41       ` Wes Groleau
2001-08-27 19:22         ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-08-27 18:44       ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-08-27 19:00         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-29 17:53           ` B.Gaffney
2001-08-30 16:29             ` Serge Robyns
2001-08-27 19:24       ` David Starner
2001-08-27 21:07         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27 23:22         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-28 13:48           ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-28 15:50             ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-28 16:14               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-28 17:25                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-30 14:44                   ` Robert Spooner
2001-08-28 14:29           ` Gary Scott
2001-08-28  9:25         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-08-29 10:33     ` Tony Gair
2001-08-29 14:15       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-29 14:45         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-29 15:27           ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-29 16:11             ` chris.danx
2001-08-29 17:20               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-29 17:02             ` Ray Blaak
2001-08-29 17:43             ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-02  8:01             ` McDoobie
2001-09-02 19:58               ` Tony Gair
2001-09-02 23:02                 ` Darren New
2001-09-04 12:47                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-02 19:43         ` Tony Gair
2001-09-02 20:16         ` chris.danx
2001-09-03 10:01           ` Ian
2001-09-03 19:31           ` Ada OS talk (was: ADA os talk) M. A. Alves
2001-09-04 13:09             ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-04 14:57               ` M. A. Alves
2001-09-04 14:40                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-04 15:12               ` Ada OS talk M. A. Alves
2001-09-06 15:42             ` Ada OS talk (was: ADA os talk)(and now is "About you guys".) McDoobie
2001-08-27  5:15 ` ADA os talk Bobby D. Bryant
2001-08-27 14:04   ` Wes Groleau
     [not found] ` <YOsi7.14505$3f.3377844@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>
2001-08-27 17:16   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-27 17:33     ` Gerhard Häring
2001-08-30 16:43       ` Serge Robyns
2001-08-27 18:02     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27 17:37 ` Brian Catlin
2001-09-02  7:26 ` ADA os talk (Innovate!) McDoobie
2001-09-02 10:53   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-09-04 12:33     ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-04 12:17   ` Marin David Condic
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