Re: Ada vendors and the art of selling used cars

["Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>]

A real quick search from Google Computers On Line:

http://www.computer-on-line.com/msvc6ent.html

The posted price there: $1159. I know this comes in different editions -
this particular one is the "Enterprise Edition" - so it may available at
considerably less cost in other configurations. (A little digging around
shows up the "Professional Edition at $490.)

Anyway, I don't think Ada stands much of a chance of overtaking C++, et
alia, unless it can find a way to have a spiffy little boxed kit with
everything you ever wanted in it just right there for a similar price tag
and as easily accessible. (Maybe get it on Amazon? Probably easier to do
than get it some shelf space in CompUSA.)

Just a thought as to what Ada needs to do to meet customer expectations.

MDC
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Marin David Condic
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"McDoobie" <chris@dont.spam.me> wrote in message
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> In article <3b7fdb8a_2@news3.prserv.net>, "Andrzej Lewandowski"
> <lewandoREMOVE@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > Ada vendors,
> >
> > Could you please publish price list of your products?
> >
> > With notable exception of R.R. Software that makes the price list
> > public, any attempt to know the cost of tools from other vendors results
> > in "you will be contacted by our sales representative". The very first
> > attempt of such sales representative is investigating the depth of my
> > pocket. Usual question is "what for you will be using our product?" that
> > generates my standard answer: "not your f...g business".
> >
> > It seems that "used car dealer mentality" is the REAL obstacle in making
> > Ada more popular than it is.
> >
> > A.L.
>
> I second that motion.
>
> I'm checking around for a good Ada development environment, and I wouldnt
> mind picking up a copy of GNAT Pro or the Aonix toolchain. But "contact
> our sales rep" is irritating as hell.
>
> I suspect the reason they wont list the prices is because it would
> probably take a real good con-artist salesman to get me to even consider
> paying what thier asking. It gives me the  impression that they're hiding
> something.
>
> I wouldnt have any problem paying for a decent development environment,
> one that will run on Linux or BSD, but until these companies are a little
> more forthcoming with the critical  information, I will refuse to buy from
> them. At least with Java and C and such, I can  purchase tools right
> online with a credit or debit card and them delivered next day air
> (should I choose to do so).
> So piss on it, for now I'll continue using the free tools that are
> available. Dealing with "Sales Reps" feels too much like dealing with
> telemarketers.
>
> Laters.
>
> McDoobie
>
> chris@dont.spam.me