From: "Marin David Condic" <marin.condic.auntie.spam@pacemicro.com>
Subject: Re: "is ada dead?" A challenge for all of us?
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:39:09 -0400
Date: 2001-07-11T16:39:11+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ihvff$l7i$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: pK_27.27350$B56.4717960@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com
I've got some version of EMACS here that I use on occasion when I'm on the
Sun side of things. I don't know what inspires such loyalty. It looks
basically like a thousand other editors I've seen except that it has more of
a VI flavor to it. I don't see any wonderful, spiffy features jumping up at
me that make me say "Hey! This is different!"
In fairness, I don't use it extensively and I've not studied whatever help
is available for it in any detail. I also do not have an "Ada Mode" for it,
so I don't know if this suddenly changes things dramatically. AFAIK, it
doesn't do many of the things I regularly see with CodeWright or the MSVC++
environment. It looks basically like an editor - and that's it. If all I am
getting is an editor - I'd rather have TPU - maybe LSE (but I found it
painful when it was trying to "help" me.) or TPU in EDT mode.
I suppose I'm asking to be told "RTFM" and "You're not doing it right!" but
if all the gold lies burried that deep, I'd blame the tool for that - not
me. If what it has is so spiffy, howcum it isn't immediately visible?
MDC
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"chris.danx" <chris.danx@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:pK_27.27350$B56.4717960@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > > Could you define State Of The Art IDE for me please?
> > >
> > > A while back I had the idea for an IDE that could handle different
> compilers,
> > > and didn't need things on the PATH. Anyway, I didn't get very far,
but
> recently
> > > I've been looking at the idea again, possibly using GWindows, and I'm
> looking
> > > for ideas.
> > >
> > > I was thinking of an IDE for Windows with some of the following
> > >
> > > - Syntax Highlighting
> > > - Project Management facilities
> > > - Code Completion (good for long package structures like x.y.a.b.c ?)
> > > - Possibility an Object browser
> > > - Ada Aware
> > > - Non Specific Compiler support
> > > - and others
> > >
> > > What other features would you like to see? What features would you
not like
> to
> > > see?
> >
> > What's funny is that Emacs with the Ada-mode (and the other modes with
> > which it is bundled) already provides most of these features, just...in
> > the "Emacs idiom".
> >
>
> I found that hard to adjust to, and the mappings difficult to learn.
That's why
> I don't use Emacs except in rare cases. I guess it's just a matter of
personal
> preference.
>
> Chris Campbell
>
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2001-07-10 2:30 ` "is ada dead?" A challenge for all of us? Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-10 10:41 ` Michael Erdmann
2001-07-11 6:42 ` McDoobie
2001-07-11 14:53 ` chris.danx
2001-07-11 15:36 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-11 16:01 ` chris.danx
2001-07-11 16:39 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-07-11 18:00 ` Al Christians
2001-07-16 11:18 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-19 21:50 ` Kjell Mesch
2001-07-11 18:08 ` Marc A. Criley
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2001-07-13 2:08 ` GLIDE Jeffrey Carter
2001-07-13 12:58 ` GLIDE Marc A. Criley
2001-07-13 15:26 ` GLIDE file13
2001-07-14 2:47 ` GLIDE Jeffrey Carter
2001-07-14 13:53 ` GLIDE Robert Dewar
2001-07-14 15:40 ` GLIDE Jeffrey Carter
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2001-07-15 6:34 ` GLIDE Simon Wright
2001-07-15 23:44 ` GLIDE Robert B. Love
2001-07-17 16:14 ` GLIDE David C. Hoos
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2001-07-23 13:00 ` emacs Else and ada-mode Stephen Leake
2001-07-23 16:51 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-07-11 16:28 ` "is ada dead?" A challenge for all of us? Al Christians
2001-07-11 19:58 ` chris.danx
2001-07-11 20:56 ` McDoobie
2001-07-11 20:29 ` McDoobie
2001-07-13 12:46 ` chris.danx
2001-07-13 23:35 ` McDoobie
2001-07-11 22:04 ` Larry Kilgallen
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2001-07-12 2:54 ` Emacs vs. the World Ted Dennison
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2001-07-13 22:55 ` About private types and reusability? Didier Utheza
2001-07-13 23:06 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-14 21:02 ` Didier Utheza
2001-07-13 23:28 ` An Ada IDE and discussions chris.danx
2001-07-14 7:08 ` Michael Erdmann
2001-07-14 12:52 ` chris.danx
2001-07-15 3:46 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-16 11:12 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-17 13:29 ` chris.danx
2001-07-17 14:21 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-17 15:55 ` chris.danx
2001-07-17 16:58 ` Firstish Impressions of Gtk+(GtkAda): was " chris.danx
2001-07-19 20:38 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-18 19:27 ` chris.danx
2001-07-16 15:05 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-17 7:50 ` Emmanuel Briot
2001-07-17 10:09 ` nicolas
2001-07-17 13:26 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-17 15:06 ` nicolas
2001-07-17 15:49 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-17 22:42 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-18 8:13 ` nicolas
2001-07-17 17:58 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-17 18:58 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-17 22:52 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-18 6:41 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-18 14:12 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-18 16:33 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-18 17:12 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-18 18:35 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-18 19:30 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-20 15:41 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-20 17:40 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-20 20:18 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-18 19:20 ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-18 16:59 ` Making money from free software [was Re: An Ada IDE and discussions] Matthias Benkmann
2001-07-18 20:50 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-19 17:08 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-19 23:27 ` An Ada IDE and discussions Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-17 22:33 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-18 14:17 ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-16 17:00 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-16 18:17 ` Al Christians
2001-07-16 18:42 ` Ed Falis
2001-07-16 18:28 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-07-17 7:42 ` Emmanuel Briot
2001-07-17 14:36 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-07-17 7:54 ` Tor Fredrik Aas
2001-07-17 13:33 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-17 17:51 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-17 23:00 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-17 22:55 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-17 22:56 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-18 16:10 ` McDoobie
2001-07-19 23:41 ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-07-16 16:52 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-18 12:15 ` "is ada dead?" A challenge for all of us? Mats Karlssohn
2001-07-12 2:54 ` DuckE
2001-07-11 9:01 ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-07-11 17:27 ` Michal Nowak
2001-07-11 19:14 ` tmoran
2001-07-11 20:15 ` McDoobie
2001-07-12 2:20 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-07-13 23:34 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2001-07-21 17:48 ` GianLuigi Piacentini
2001-07-16 8:40 Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-23 0:47 ` Barry Kelly
2001-07-27 16:50 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2001-07-28 10:47 ` Barry Kelly
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2001-07-09 19:49 Michael Erdmann
2001-07-08 15:33 Michael Erdmann
2001-07-08 20:44 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2001-07-09 1:53 ` McDoobie
2001-07-09 16:50 ` Michal Nowak
2001-07-10 2:24 ` DuckE
2001-07-10 10:19 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-10 22:39 ` Paul Storm
2001-07-11 20:15 ` James Squire
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