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From: "Marin David Condic" <marin.condic.auntie.spam@pacemicro.com>
Subject: Re: an interested business-oriented programmer
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:42:22 -0400
Date: 2001-06-07T13:42:24+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9fo0c0$nji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3B1EAAB4.5C86F53D@lmtas.lmco.com

You don't need to extend Ada to get at the Win32api. You can get there
through a set of packages distributed with a number of Ada compilers called
Win32Ada....

I think Ted's comments had more to do with the notion that because Ada is
rather stringently controlled in terms of a standard, etc. that "certain
powers that be" would be unable to glom onto it, add their own extensions,
through sheer size get thousands of users hooked on their "embraced and
extended" "standard" and then totally control the market - thus bringing the
Justice Department down on their head with anti-trust suits.

Of course there is nothing stopping someone from using Ada syntax & adding
things to it. Any Ada compiler can do that - and even still be validated,
provided there is some mode in which it will interpret "standard" Ada95.

MDC
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Marin David Condic
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"Gary Scott" <Gary.L.Scott@lmtas.lmco.com> wrote in message
news:3B1EAAB4.5C86F53D@lmtas.lmco.com...
> Obviously.  What we're talking about is expanding Ada's market.  I too
> would prefer that extensions be kept to a minimum.  I'm not familiar
> enough with Ada to know that extensions would be required simply to
> access the Win32 C-based API (I hadn't thought so).  Those are the only
> extensions that I'm aware of that MIGHT be required for some other
> languages (at least until the next standard revision).
>
> If you want to get STUDENTS trained in Ada, then you've got to make it
> easy for them.  They're NOT going to accept a basic command line tool
> set environment to any great extent (sure a few 'geeks' will).
>
> Ted Dennison wrote:
> >
> > In article <3B1E7320.5E21BB4F@lmtas.lmco.com>, Gary Scott says...
> > >So why doesn't someone put together a "Visual Ada" product integrated
> > >with Visual Studio and mass market it?  They did it for Fortran...
> >
> > Perhaps because the Ada market's insistance on standard conformance
prevents
> > "someone" from embracing-and-extending the language to trap their users.
> >
> > ---
> > T.E.D.    homepage   - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html
> >           home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com





  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-06-07 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-06 16:22 an interested business-oriented programmer Rod Weston
2001-06-06 17:14 ` Marin David Condic
2001-06-06 18:14   ` Gary Scott
2001-06-06 20:02     ` Marin David Condic
2001-06-06 20:52     ` Ted Dennison
2001-06-06 22:12       ` Gary Scott
2001-06-07  1:02         ` Jerry van Dijk
2001-06-07 13:42         ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-06-07 15:09           ` Ted Dennison
2001-06-07 14:58         ` Ted Dennison
2001-06-07 16:20           ` Gary Scott
2001-06-07 20:44             ` Ted Dennison
2001-06-07 21:36               ` Gary Scott
2001-06-07 19:44           ` tmoran
2001-06-07 20:04             ` Al Christians
2001-06-08 12:46               ` Florian Weimer
2001-06-08 13:20                 ` Al Christians
2001-06-08 16:02                   ` Florian Weimer
2001-06-09  1:08                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-06-09 17:52                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-06-10 14:23                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-06-10 19:10                           ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2001-06-11 22:58                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-06-12  0:13                             ` Ada for Hobbyists on VMS (was: an interested business-oriented...) Larry Kilgallen
2001-06-08 18:55             ` an interested business-oriented programmer Pascal Obry
2001-06-07 17:05         ` Pascal Obry
2001-06-06 22:12       ` Marin David Condic
2001-06-06 17:49 ` tmoran
2001-06-06 18:03 ` Jerry van Dijk
2001-06-08 17:59 ` Recent Ada books [was: an interested business-oriented programmer] BSCrawford
2001-06-08 19:26   ` Marin David Condic
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-06-06 22:06 an interested business-oriented programmer Beard, Frank
2001-06-07  2:52 ` James Rogers
2001-06-07  3:15   ` Ed Falis
2001-06-07  4:58   ` Al Christians
2001-06-07  5:30     ` James Rogers
2001-06-07 13:52     ` Marin David Condic
2001-06-07 14:36       ` Stanley R. Allen
2001-06-07 16:12         ` Marin David Condic
2001-06-09 16:46       ` Robert A Duff
2001-06-11 13:57         ` Marin David Condic
     [not found] <20010607153207.573AE1926F@ada.eu.org>
2001-06-09 15:19 ` Michal Nowak
2001-06-09 16:54   ` Robert A Duff
2001-06-10  6:36     ` Pascal Obry
2001-06-10 11:08     ` Simon Wright
2001-06-11 14:07       ` Ted Dennison
2001-06-11 22:28         ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-06-12 14:25           ` Ted Dennison
2001-06-12 15:41             ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-06-12 16:43               ` James Rogers
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