From: "Marin David Condic" <marin.condic.auntie.spam@pacemicro.com>
Subject: Re: Streams in Ada
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:21:59 -0400
Date: 2001-04-03T14:22:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9acma8$d5k$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87g0fqpa4b.fsf@deneb.enyo.de
I suppose that may be what it would be if you thought of the *LARGEST*
addressable unit - but going the other direction is I think what was
intended. AFAIK, Alphas will address a single byte - even if it isn't the
most optimal use of the bus. Whereas, the PDP-10 would only address a 36 bit
word as the smallest element it would extract from memory. The rest of the
operations for smaller sized units would disect the word after it was
fetched.
I doubt we'd have to consider various possible hardware schemes as part of
the issue. Only the instruction set.
MDC
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"Florian Weimer" <fw@deneb.enyo.de> wrote in message
news:87g0fqpa4b.fsf@deneb.enyo.de...
> "Marin David Condic" <marin.condic.auntie.spam@pacemicro.com> writes:
>
> > As I understand the notion of Storage_Element, they rather intended for
this
> > to correspond to whatever the hardware would normally reference with a
> > machine address and pull off the bus.
>
> According to this definition, Storage_Element'Size would have to be
> 256. :-/
>
> > The fact that there may be instructions that let you pick apart that
> > chunk of stuff you pulled from the bus wouldn't be a consideration
> > because you'd be looking for the machine's most efficient means of
> > referencing data. Hence, even though the PDP-10 could easily disect
> > the 36 bit words, you'd still want Storage_Element to be 36 bits
> > because that was the smallest chunk of data you could extract from
> > main memory.
>
> This would imply that Storage_Element'Size should equal 64 with
> generic Alpha targets. I don't think many vendors implement this.
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-03-31 14:49 Streams in Ada chris.danx
2001-03-31 15:22 ` chris.danx
2001-03-31 21:37 ` Jeff Creem
2001-03-31 21:49 ` chris.danx
2001-03-31 22:21 ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-31 22:33 ` chris.danx
2001-04-02 13:47 ` Ted Dennison
2001-04-02 14:03 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-02 14:29 ` Ted Dennison
2001-04-02 14:54 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 14:47 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-02 15:10 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-02 15:49 ` Ted Dennison
2001-04-02 16:57 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-02 17:43 ` PDP-10, was " tmoran
2001-04-02 17:49 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 22:09 ` 6-bit characters (was: Re: Streams in Ada) Jeffrey Carter
2001-04-02 23:29 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-03 16:41 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-04-03 17:57 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-03 18:19 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-05 18:37 ` Tucker Taft
2001-04-03 18:04 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-06 22:40 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-03 14:10 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-03 1:57 ` Streams in Ada Larry Kilgallen
2001-04-03 14:13 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-13 23:21 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 17:41 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-02 18:17 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 19:36 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-02 20:54 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-03 10:10 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-03 14:21 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-04-03 18:15 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-03 23:21 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 21:13 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-02 21:22 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-03 10:02 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-02 16:42 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-13 5:00 ` David Thompson
2001-03-31 20:48 ` James Rogers
2001-03-31 21:20 ` chris.danx
2001-03-31 21:22 ` chris.danx
2001-03-31 23:10 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-04-01 11:27 ` chris.danx
2001-04-02 14:12 ` Ted Dennison
2001-04-02 14:00 ` Ted Dennison
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2001-04-05 14:24 Brian Gaffney
2001-04-06 22:54 ` Robert A Duff
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