From: "Marin David Condic" <marin.condic.auntie.spam@pacemicro.com>
Subject: Re: Streams in Ada
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:36:57 -0400
Date: 2001-04-02T19:36:58+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9aakcq$kj9$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wccae5zw4hm.fsf@world.std.com
As I understand the notion of Storage_Element, they rather intended for this
to correspond to whatever the hardware would normally reference with a
machine address and pull off the bus. The fact that there may be
instructions that let you pick apart that chunk of stuff you pulled from the
bus wouldn't be a consideration because you'd be looking for the machine's
most efficient means of referencing data. Hence, even though the PDP-10
could easily disect the 36 bit words, you'd still want Storage_Element to be
36 bits because that was the smallest chunk of data you could extract from
main memory. (IIRC, it was an 18 bit address, right? And I *do* remember
using 7 bit ASCII with one bit left over! :-)
So this hypothetical Ada95 compiler would use 36 bits to store a character
or array of characters? You'd have to use packing or other representation
clauses to get the characters into a single word? Hmmmmmmm....... That would
probably provide all sorts of ammunition for the Anti-Ada-Zealots.
MDC
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"Robert A Duff" <bobduff@world.std.com> wrote in message
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>
> Sounds like a bad idea to me. Storage_Element'Size should be 36 on the
> PDP-10. I believe anything else would be unnecessarily inefficient.
>
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-03-31 14:49 Streams in Ada chris.danx
2001-03-31 15:22 ` chris.danx
2001-03-31 21:37 ` Jeff Creem
2001-03-31 21:49 ` chris.danx
2001-03-31 22:21 ` Robert A Duff
2001-03-31 22:33 ` chris.danx
2001-04-02 13:47 ` Ted Dennison
2001-04-02 14:03 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-02 14:29 ` Ted Dennison
2001-04-02 14:54 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 14:47 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-02 15:10 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-02 15:49 ` Ted Dennison
2001-04-02 16:57 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-02 17:43 ` PDP-10, was " tmoran
2001-04-02 17:49 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 22:09 ` 6-bit characters (was: Re: Streams in Ada) Jeffrey Carter
2001-04-02 23:29 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-03 16:41 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-04-03 17:57 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-03 18:19 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-05 18:37 ` Tucker Taft
2001-04-03 18:04 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-06 22:40 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-03 14:10 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-03 1:57 ` Streams in Ada Larry Kilgallen
2001-04-03 14:13 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-13 23:21 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 17:41 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-02 18:17 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 19:36 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-04-02 20:54 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-03 10:10 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-03 14:21 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-03 18:15 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-03 23:21 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-02 21:13 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-02 21:22 ` Robert A Duff
2001-04-03 10:02 ` Florian Weimer
2001-04-02 16:42 ` Marin David Condic
2001-04-13 5:00 ` David Thompson
2001-03-31 20:48 ` James Rogers
2001-03-31 21:20 ` chris.danx
2001-03-31 21:22 ` chris.danx
2001-03-31 23:10 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2001-04-01 11:27 ` chris.danx
2001-04-02 14:12 ` Ted Dennison
2001-04-02 14:00 ` Ted Dennison
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2001-04-05 14:24 Brian Gaffney
2001-04-06 22:54 ` Robert A Duff
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