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From: Adam Beneschan <adam@irvine.com>
Subject: Re: sharp ß and ss in Ada keywords like ACCESS
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:54:25 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2011-10-11T11:54:25-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9a302f3b-c2ff-49a0-affb-a480ed0b79a1@c6g2000prb.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: op.v2661evjz25lew@macpro-eth1.krischik.com

On Oct 11, 10:33 am, "Martin Krischik"
<krisc...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> Am 10.10.2011, 20:23 Uhr, schrieb Georg Bauhaus  
> <rm.dash-bauh...@futureapps.de>:
>
> > However, there is substantial evidence that no z would ever be
> > combined with an s such that the result is both forming an
> > "ess-zed" shape,
>
> You just have to use the right typeface:
>
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Fraktur_letter_S.png
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Fraktur_letter_Z.png
>
> The middle s and then small z will form the ß

Actually, I think that a handwritten "z" looks quite a bit like the
right side of ß (and the
elongated "s" looks like the left side, so there).  When they tried to
teach me penmanship
grade school (this is here in California), the "z" actually looked
kind of like a 3 with a
loop at the bottom, not unlike the "z" Martin linked to.  I don't know
if they still teach
that in schools.  I know my handwritten z's these days don't look
anything like what
they tried to foist on me in second grade (and neither do my s's, r's,
f's, and probably
several other letters).  However, I still use a mnemonic my dad taught
me to tell whether
a moon is waxing or waning; if the curve is the same as the curve in a
handwritten A, it's
waning (A=abnehmen), while if it's the same as the handwritten Z, the
one that sort of looks
like a 3, it's waxing (Z=zunehmen).

Just to get us even further off topic.  If we want to get back to Ada,
we should start
discussing whether the language should treat the characters "z" and
"3" as equivalent.
(Just kidding... :-) :-))

                         -- Adam





  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-11 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-10 16:30 sharp ß and ss in Ada keywords like ACCESS Georg Bauhaus
2011-10-10 16:46 ` Adam Beneschan
2011-10-10 18:23   ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-10-10 22:25     ` sharp � " Randy Brukardt
2011-10-11  7:36       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-10-11  7:41         ` sharp ß " Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-10-11  8:33           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-10-11 20:32             ` sharp � " Randy Brukardt
2011-10-12  7:43               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-10-12  9:42                 ` J-P. Rosen
2011-10-12 12:09                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-10-12 20:17                 ` sharp " Randy Brukardt
2011-10-12 21:18                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-10-11 17:33     ` sharp ß " Martin Krischik
2011-10-11 18:54       ` Adam Beneschan [this message]
2011-10-12 13:03       ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-10-12 13:48         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-10-12 18:24           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-10-12 20:06             ` sharp � " Randy Brukardt
2011-10-12 20:48             ` sharp ß " Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-10-12 22:56               ` sharp ß and ss in Ada keywords like AC CESS Georg Bauhaus
2011-10-13  8:10                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-10-13 12:13                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-10-13 13:25                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-10-13 15:18                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-10-13 19:17                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-10-11  7:33   ` sharp ß and ss in Ada keywords like ACCESS Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2011-10-11 14:32     ` Adam Beneschan
2011-10-11 17:26   ` sharp ß and ss in Ada keywords like ACCESS (better not) Martin Krischik
2011-10-12 12:34     ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-10-10 17:22 ` sharp ß and ss in Ada keywords like ACCESS Simon Wright
2011-10-10 17:45 ` AdaMagica
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