* Positive publicity for Ada in the UK @ 2001-03-29 11:21 John Robinson 2001-03-29 14:29 ` Colin Paul Gloster ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: John Robinson @ 2001-03-29 11:21 UTC (permalink / raw) Just thought I would point out that Computer Weekly in the UK have just published a very favourable article on Ada as a "hot skill": Computer Weekly, 29th March, pp108 I struggle to remember the mainstream computer press printing anything other than ill informed and inaccurate statements about Ada in recent times. It is a relief to see someone publishing hard facts at last. Regards. -- John Robinson www.JohnRobinsonAndAssociates.com www.Adaxia.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Positive publicity for Ada in the UK 2001-03-29 11:21 Positive publicity for Ada in the UK John Robinson @ 2001-03-29 14:29 ` Colin Paul Gloster 2001-03-29 14:39 ` John Robinson 2001-03-30 11:23 ` Tarjei T. Jensen ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Colin Paul Gloster @ 2001-03-29 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <S0dc1MAgqxw6EwBE@jr-and-assoc.demon.co.uk>, John Robinson wrote: "Just thought I would point out that Computer Weekly in the UK have just published a very favourable article on Ada as a "hot skill": Computer Weekly, 29th March, pp108 I struggle to remember the mainstream computer press printing anything other than ill informed and inaccurate statements about Ada in recent times. It is a relief to see someone publishing hard facts at last." I will try to remember to have a look at that, Computer Weekly is running a little late here at the moment (latest issue arrived is that of 15th March 2001 on 23rd March 2001). Do remember that this is the periodical which successfully campaigned to clear the names of the pilots in the Chinook disaster, probably correctly overturning the ruling that the crash was down to pilot error. -- This signature file is included in protest against the hosting of Nazi facist propaganda "Mein Kampf" written by Adolf Hitler on the Dublin City University Networking Society (committee@RedBrick.DCU.Ie, DCU Networking Society, c/o Clubs and Socs Office, The Hub, DCU, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland) website at HTTP://WWW.RedBrick.DCU.Ie/~mellow/Adolf/ by R. O'Brien whose username is mellow. On 22nd March 2001 Dublin City University webmaster Niall O'Leary (niall.oleary@DCU.Ie, +353-1-700 5864, Room C203, Computer Services Department, Henry Grattan Building, DCU, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland) authorised "Mein Kampf" to be on the Internet via DCU and HEAnet (info@HEAnet.Ie, +353-1-6623412, HEAnet Ltd., Ground Floor, Marine House, Clanwilliam Court, Dublin 2, Ireland) resources. Please also complain to The President's Office, DCU, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland, dcupres@DCU.Ie. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Positive publicity for Ada in the UK 2001-03-29 14:29 ` Colin Paul Gloster @ 2001-03-29 14:39 ` John Robinson 2001-03-29 15:47 ` Colin Paul Gloster 2001-03-30 3:41 ` Ken Garlington 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: John Robinson @ 2001-03-29 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <slrn9c6e24.39vg.Colin_Paul_Gloster@tolka.dcu.ie>, Colin Paul Gloster <Colin_Paul_Gloster@ACM.org> writes <snip> >Do remember that this is the periodical >which successfully campaigned to clear the names of the pilots in the >Chinook disaster, probably correctly overturning the ruling that the crash >was down to pilot error. > It was also the paper that used a print of Lady Ada with the caption "Ada Shall Not Be Used" as part of an article on the AJPO closure. -- John Robinson www.JohnRobinsonAndAssociates.com www.Adaxia.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Positive publicity for Ada in the UK 2001-03-29 14:39 ` John Robinson @ 2001-03-29 15:47 ` Colin Paul Gloster 2001-03-30 3:41 ` Ken Garlington 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Colin Paul Gloster @ 2001-03-29 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <YRucdTAok0w6EwTW@jr-and-assoc.demon.co.uk>, John Robinson wrote: "In article <slrn9c6e24.39vg.Colin_Paul_Gloster@tolka.dcu.ie>, Colin Paul Gloster <Colin_Paul_Gloster@ACM.org> writes <snip> >Do remember that this is the periodical >which successfully campaigned to clear the names of the pilots in the >Chinook disaster, probably correctly overturning the ruling that the crash >was down to pilot error. > It was also the paper that used a print of Lady Ada with the caption "Ada Shall Not Be Used" as part of an article on the AJPO closure." Was unaware of that. The change of tune seems ever more reassuring then. Colin Paul Gloster -- This signature file is included in protest against the hosting of Nazi facist propaganda "Mein Kampf" written by Adolf Hitler on the Dublin City University Networking Society (committee@RedBrick.DCU.Ie, DCU Networking Society, c/o Clubs and Socs Office, The Hub, DCU, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland) website at HTTP://WWW.RedBrick.DCU.Ie/~mellow/Adolf/ by R. O'Brien whose username is mellow. On 22nd March 2001 Dublin City University webmaster Niall O'Leary (niall.oleary@DCU.Ie, +353-1-700 5864, Room C203, Computer Services Department, Henry Grattan Building, DCU, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland) authorised "Mein Kampf" to be on the Internet via DCU and HEAnet (info@HEAnet.Ie, +353-1-6623412, HEAnet Ltd., Ground Floor, Marine House, Clanwilliam Court, Dublin 2, Ireland) resources. Please also complain to The President's Office, DCU, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland, dcupres@DCU.Ie. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Positive publicity for Ada in the UK 2001-03-29 14:39 ` John Robinson 2001-03-29 15:47 ` Colin Paul Gloster @ 2001-03-30 3:41 ` Ken Garlington 2001-03-30 9:15 ` Colin Paul Gloster 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Ken Garlington @ 2001-03-30 3:41 UTC (permalink / raw) "John Robinson" <john@JohnRobinsonAndAssociates.com> wrote in message news:YRucdTAok0w6EwTW@jr-and-assoc.demon.co.uk... : In article <slrn9c6e24.39vg.Colin_Paul_Gloster@tolka.dcu.ie>, Colin Paul : Gloster <Colin_Paul_Gloster@ACM.org> writes : : <snip> : : >Do remember that this is the periodical : >which successfully campaigned to clear the names of the pilots in the : >Chinook disaster, probably correctly overturning the ruling that the crash : >was down to pilot error. I know this is drifting slightly off-topic, but has the ruling been officially overturned, or has there just been a suggestion by certain MPs that it *should* be overturned? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Positive publicity for Ada in the UK 2001-03-30 3:41 ` Ken Garlington @ 2001-03-30 9:15 ` Colin Paul Gloster 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Colin Paul Gloster @ 2001-03-30 9:15 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <XfTw6.460$IT5.99024014@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com>, Ken Garlington wrote: ""John Robinson" <john@JohnRobinsonAndAssociates.com> wrote in message news:YRucdTAok0w6EwTW@jr-and-assoc.demon.co.uk... : In article <slrn9c6e24.39vg.Colin_Paul_Gloster@tolka.dcu.ie>, Colin Paul : Gloster <Colin_Paul_Gloster@ACM.org> writes : : <snip> : : >Do remember that this is the periodical : >which successfully campaigned to clear the names of the pilots in the : >Chinook disaster, probably correctly overturning the ruling that the crash : >was down to pilot error. I know this is drifting slightly off-topic, but has the ruling been officially overturned, or has there just been a suggestion by certain MPs that it *should* be overturned?" I would have to check back to be sure but Computer Weekly sticks in my mind as hailing itself as triumphant in its campaign to clear the pilots' names. -- This signature file is included in protest against the hosting of Nazi facist propaganda "Mein Kampf" written by Adolf Hitler on the Dublin City University Networking Society (committee@RedBrick.DCU.Ie, DCU Networking Society, c/o Clubs and Socs Office, The Hub, DCU, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland) website at HTTP://WWW.RedBrick.DCU.Ie/~mellow/Adolf/ by R. O'Brien whose username is mellow. On 22nd March 2001 Dublin City University webmaster Niall O'Leary (niall.oleary@DCU.Ie, +353-1-700 5864, Room C203, Computer Services Department, Henry Grattan Building, DCU, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland) authorised "Mein Kampf" to be on the Internet via DCU and HEAnet (info@HEAnet.Ie, +353-1-6623412, HEAnet Ltd., Ground Floor, Marine House, Clanwilliam Court, Dublin 2, Ireland) resources. Please also complain to The President's Office, DCU, Glasnevin, Dublin 9, Ireland, dcupres@DCU.Ie. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Positive publicity for Ada in the UK 2001-03-29 11:21 Positive publicity for Ada in the UK John Robinson 2001-03-29 14:29 ` Colin Paul Gloster @ 2001-03-30 11:23 ` Tarjei T. Jensen 2001-03-30 12:34 ` Simon Pilgrim 2001-04-03 8:35 ` Martin Dowie 3 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Tarjei T. Jensen @ 2001-03-30 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw) John Robinson wrote in message ... >Just thought I would point out that Computer Weekly in the UK have just >published a very favourable article on Ada as a "hot skill": > >Computer Weekly, 29th March, pp108 > >I struggle to remember the mainstream computer press printing anything >other than ill informed and inaccurate statements about Ada in recent >times. It is a relief to see someone publishing hard facts at last. If you search http://www.computerweekly.co.uk for ada, you will find it mentioned. And I think it is doing well in that publication. Particularly when they discuss language skills and jobs. Ada seems to be popular in engineering companies. Greetings, ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Positive publicity for Ada in the UK 2001-03-29 11:21 Positive publicity for Ada in the UK John Robinson 2001-03-29 14:29 ` Colin Paul Gloster 2001-03-30 11:23 ` Tarjei T. Jensen @ 2001-03-30 12:34 ` Simon Pilgrim 2001-03-30 13:24 ` Tarjei T. Jensen 2001-04-03 8:35 ` Martin Dowie 3 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Simon Pilgrim @ 2001-03-30 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw) John Robinson wrote: > > Just thought I would point out that Computer Weekly in the UK have just > published a very favourable article on Ada as a "hot skill": > > Computer Weekly, 29th March, pp108 > > I struggle to remember the mainstream computer press printing anything > other than ill informed and inaccurate statements about Ada in recent > times. It is a relief to see someone publishing hard facts at last. Having just scanned the article at: http://www.computerweekly.co.uk/cwarchive/xtra/19991007/cwcontainer.asp?name=S1.html&ct=search Although it may be an improvement, they still have a way to go. "A new version of the language, Ada 95, has been developed to incorporate more modern features, notably object oriented programming based around the concepts of inheritance and polymorphisms, to bring it in line with C++ and Java." And later: "There is, for example, a three-day course on Ada 63 to Ada 95 conversion to update programmers already familiar with the old version." I didn't realise Ada was that old :) -- Regards, Simon Pilgrim BAE SYSTEMS, Rochester, UK ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Positive publicity for Ada in the UK 2001-03-30 12:34 ` Simon Pilgrim @ 2001-03-30 13:24 ` Tarjei T. Jensen 2001-03-30 15:00 ` Simon Pilgrim 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Tarjei T. Jensen @ 2001-03-30 13:24 UTC (permalink / raw) Simon Pilgrim wrote >Having just scanned the article at: > >http://www.computerweekly.co.uk/cwarchive/xtra/19991007/cwcontainer.asp?nam e=S1.html&ct=search > >Although it may be an improvement, they still have a way to go. That is a year old article. The poster referred to an article from this week. Greetings, ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Positive publicity for Ada in the UK 2001-03-30 13:24 ` Tarjei T. Jensen @ 2001-03-30 15:00 ` Simon Pilgrim 2001-03-31 5:33 ` Phaedrus 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Simon Pilgrim @ 2001-03-30 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw) "Tarjei T. Jensen" wrote: > > Simon Pilgrim wrote > > >Having just scanned the article at: > > > >http://www.computerweekly.co.uk/cwarchive/xtra/19991007/cwcontainer.asp?nam > e=S1.html&ct=search > > > >Although it may be an improvement, they still have a way to go. > > That is a year old article. The poster referred to an article from this > week. Sorry. There's a lot of "foot 'n mouth" disease going round. Every time I open my mouth I put my foot in it. :) My search of http://www.computerweekly.co.uk/ didn't show any articles from this year. The latest Ada article found by the search is from August 2000. This also mentions an increase in the demand for Ada skills, based on analysis of job adverts in the trade and national press. -- Regards, Simon Pilgrim ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Positive publicity for Ada in the UK 2001-03-30 15:00 ` Simon Pilgrim @ 2001-03-31 5:33 ` Phaedrus 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Phaedrus @ 2001-03-31 5:33 UTC (permalink / raw) Hmmm, maybe I should try doing my consultant stuff in the UK. Sounds like they've got more demand. Phaedrus "Simon Pilgrim" <simon.pilgrim@baesystems.com> wrote in message news:3AC49FA5.932102FD@baesystems.com... > > > "Tarjei T. Jensen" wrote: > > > > Simon Pilgrim wrote > > > > >Having just scanned the article at: > > > > > >http://www.computerweekly.co.uk/cwarchive/xtra/19991007/cwcontainer.asp?nam > > e=S1.html&ct=search > > > > > >Although it may be an improvement, they still have a way to go. > > > > That is a year old article. The poster referred to an article from this > > week. > > Sorry. There's a lot of "foot 'n mouth" disease going round. Every > time I open my mouth I put my foot in it. :) > > My search of http://www.computerweekly.co.uk/ didn't show any articles > from this year. The latest Ada article found by the search is from > August 2000. This also mentions an increase in the demand for Ada > skills, based on analysis of job adverts in the trade and national > press. > > -- > Regards, > Simon Pilgrim > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Positive publicity for Ada in the UK 2001-03-29 11:21 Positive publicity for Ada in the UK John Robinson ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2001-03-30 12:34 ` Simon Pilgrim @ 2001-04-03 8:35 ` Martin Dowie 2001-04-03 13:15 ` Ken Garlington 3 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Martin Dowie @ 2001-04-03 8:35 UTC (permalink / raw) The article is here http://www.computerweekly.co.uk/cwarchive/xtra/20010329/cwcontainer.asp?name =S1.HTML&SubSection=2&ct=careers reassuringly in the 'News/Careers' section :-) John Robinson <john@JohnRobinsonAndAssociates.com> wrote in message news:S0dc1MAgqxw6EwBE@jr-and-assoc.demon.co.uk... > Just thought I would point out that Computer Weekly in the UK have just > published a very favourable article on Ada as a "hot skill": > > Computer Weekly, 29th March, pp108 > > I struggle to remember the mainstream computer press printing anything > other than ill informed and inaccurate statements about Ada in recent > times. It is a relief to see someone publishing hard facts at last. > > Regards. > -- > John Robinson > > www.JohnRobinsonAndAssociates.com > www.Adaxia.com > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Positive publicity for Ada in the UK 2001-04-03 8:35 ` Martin Dowie @ 2001-04-03 13:15 ` Ken Garlington 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Ken Garlington @ 2001-04-03 13:15 UTC (permalink / raw) Speaking of ComputerWeekly, Ada (and SPARK) enthusiasts may wish to read from http://www.computerweekly.com/chinook/campaign.asp about a safety-critical application written in Ada (but not the SPARK subset). It's interesting to see how poorly the magazine understands (or at least, appears to understand) the issues related to using static code analysis... "Martin Dowie" <martin.dowie@nospam.baesystems.com> wrote in message news:3ac98961$1@pull.gecm.com... : The article is here : : http://www.computerweekly.co.uk/cwarchive/xtra/20010329/cwcontainer.asp?name : =S1.HTML&SubSection=2&ct=careers : : reassuringly in the 'News/Careers' section :-) : : : John Robinson <john@JohnRobinsonAndAssociates.com> wrote in message : news:S0dc1MAgqxw6EwBE@jr-and-assoc.demon.co.uk... : > Just thought I would point out that Computer Weekly in the UK have just : > published a very favourable article on Ada as a "hot skill": : > : > Computer Weekly, 29th March, pp108 : > : > I struggle to remember the mainstream computer press printing anything : > other than ill informed and inaccurate statements about Ada in recent : > times. It is a relief to see someone publishing hard facts at last. : > : > Regards. : > -- : > John Robinson : > : > www.JohnRobinsonAndAssociates.com : > www.Adaxia.com : > : > : : ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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