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From: "Marin David Condic" <marin.condic.auntie.spam@pacemicro.com>
Subject: Re: Increased Interest In Ada?
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 09:48:07 -0500
Date: 2001-03-13T14:48:35+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <98lc03$23l$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 98kjgv$3j69@news.kvaerner.com

I think that misses the point. The point was to create an environment in
which students could learn techniques for programming embedded computers. If
you give them a PC as the target, it pretty much defeats the whole game
since it looks just about like any other kind of programming. Especially if
you give them a PC with some version of MS-DOS or Windoze on it since that
just about eliminates the need for them to develop their own OS code.

Sure, hooking PCs to stuff and writing software for it can be a good
realtime experience, but I was looking at the notion of providing an
environment that reflects a whole different kind of problem space.

Just for grins, I plugged some words into Google and turned up:
http://www.zworld.com/index.html - you might pay them a visit and look at
the cost of their boards/development products. They're advertising their
"RabbitCore 2000" development kit for $169. (I'm sure you can plus it up
with plenty of options, but that's not a bad starting point, is it?) If
there was a little SBC like this with an Ada compiler, I think it might make
a good basis for an embedded programming class....

MDC
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"Tarjei T. Jensen" <tarjei.jensen@kvaerner.com> wrote in message
news:98kjgv$3j69@news.kvaerner.com...
> Doing this should be a two stage approach. Stage 1 is using off the shelf
> hardware like a standard PC. Stage 2 would involve working on an embedded
> kit. That way the money last. I don't think embedded intel kits are
> particularly cheap. And if you want a kit for everybody then it isn't
cheap
> anymore.
>
> As for what you can connect to a PC; only your imagination limits you. The
> last two issues of Elektor has articles on a DIY PCI card. The card is
> available so that you can use it for prototyping. All sorts of things are
> possible. Then we have parallell and serial ports, network cards, scsi and
> gpib controllers, etc.
>






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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-08 19:12 Increased Interest In Ada? Marin David Condic
2001-02-08 20:36 ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-09  0:16   ` Ken Garlington
2001-02-08 20:40 ` BSCrawford
2001-02-08 23:17   ` JF Harrison
2001-02-09 13:33     ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-09 16:41       ` David Botton
2001-02-09 13:08   ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-02-09 13:38     ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-09 14:24       ` Ian Wild
2001-02-09 18:40         ` Florian Weimer
2001-02-09  9:35 ` Preben Randhol
2001-02-09 13:36   ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-09 14:36     ` Preben Randhol
2001-02-09 21:21     ` Ehud Lamm
2001-02-09 21:25     ` Jeffrey D. Cherry
2001-02-12 17:43       ` Stephen Leake
2001-02-13 15:14         ` Jerry Petrey
2001-02-20 20:27   ` Frank
2001-02-21 14:51     ` Preben Randhol
2001-02-21 15:18       ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-21 20:54         ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-21 22:56           ` Jerry Petrey
2001-02-22 10:43           ` Peter Amey
2001-02-22 14:27             ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-27 11:28               ` Peter Amey
2001-02-23  4:58           ` Cesar Rabak
2001-02-23 15:15             ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-24 21:40               ` Cesar Rabak
2001-02-25 15:10                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-26  0:34                   ` Cesar Rabak
2001-02-26 14:51                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-26 21:23                       ` non-Ada, was " tmoran
2001-02-22 11:56         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-02-23 15:17           ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-23 17:22             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-02-23 20:40               ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-13 15:01                 ` John Kern
2001-02-23 19:49             ` James Rogers
2001-02-23 20:47               ` Marin David Condic
2001-02-23 21:08               ` Randy Brukardt
2001-02-23 21:21             ` Hans-Olof Danielsson
2001-02-23 22:26               ` Jerry Petrey
2001-03-05 19:00               ` Rush Kester
2001-03-10 18:52                 ` Singlespeeder
2001-03-05 19:00               ` Rush Kester
2001-03-13 14:55             ` John Kern
2001-02-26 23:49         ` Model railroad package (was: Re: Increased Interest In Ada?) Dirk Craeynest
2001-03-10  3:37         ` Increased Interest In Ada? DuckE
2001-03-12 14:53           ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-13  7:50             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-03-13 14:48               ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2001-03-13 15:42                 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-03-13 16:31                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-14  2:13                 ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-03-14 21:36                   ` Tucker Taft
2001-03-14 21:48                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-15 16:11                       ` Tucker Taft
2001-03-15 18:18                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-03-15 18:37                           ` Tucker Taft
2001-03-16  9:20                         ` Tarjei T. Jensen
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