From: "Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93" <condicma@PWFL.COM>
Subject: Re: Ariane 5 failure
Date: 1996/10/03
Date: 1996-10-03T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <96100316350404@psavax.pwfl.com> (raw)
Ken Garlington <garlingtonke@LMTAS.LMCO.COM> writes:
>Wayne L. Beavers wrote:
>>
>> I have been reading this thread awhile and one topic that I have not seen
>mentioned is protecting the code
>> area from damage. When I code in PL/I or any other reentrant language I
>always make sure that the executable
>> code is executing from read-only storage. There is no way to put the data
>areas in read-only storage
>> (obviously) but I can't think of any reason to put the executable code in
>writeable storage.
>
>That's actually a pretty common rule of thumb for safety-critical systems.
>Unfortunately, read-only memory isn't exactly read-only. For example, hardware
>errors
>can cause a random change in the memory. So, it's not a perfect fix.
>
Actually there is a reason for sucking the code out of EEPROM and
into RAM. EEPROMs (as I understand what the hardware dweebes tell
me) are unusually susceptible to single event upsets (SEUs) if you
have lots of gamma radiation hanging around in the neighborhood.
Whereas RAMs are easier to make Rad-Hard and survive this stuff
better.
This poses problems for us software geeks to solve when creating
the bootstrap, but there are apparently good engineering reasons
for doing so. It would be nice if we could simply put an S.E.P.
Field (S.omebody E.lses P.roblem) around the hardware issues, but
once in a while the software guys have to bail out the hardware
guys because of physics.
MDC
Marin David Condic, Senior Computer Engineer ATT: 561.796.8997
M/S 731-96 Technet: 796.8997
Pratt & Whitney, GESP Fax: 561.796.4669
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1996-10-03 0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93 [this message]
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1996-10-31 0:00 Ariane 5 failure Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-10-28 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-10-29 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-11-08 0:00 ` robin
1996-10-28 0:00 Marin David Condic, 561.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-10-21 0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1996-10-16 0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-19 0:00 ` Frank Manning
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-10-14 0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-23 0:00 ` robin
1996-10-03 0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-10-03 0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-10-01 0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-10-02 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-10-02 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-04 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-06 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-10 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-14 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-16 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-18 0:00 ` Samuel T. Harris
1996-10-21 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-23 0:00 ` robin
1996-10-01 0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-10-02 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-10-02 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-10-04 0:00 ` Robert S. White
1996-10-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-10-05 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-10-06 0:00 ` Robert S. White
1996-10-03 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-10-04 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-01 0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-10-02 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
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1996-09-25 0:00 ` @@ robin
1996-09-25 0:00 ` Bob Kitzberger
1996-09-26 0:00 ` Ronald Kunne
1996-09-26 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1996-09-27 0:00 ` Wayne Hayes
1996-09-27 0:00 ` Richard Pattis
1996-09-29 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-09-29 0:00 ` Dann Corbit
1996-09-29 0:00 ` Chris McKnight
1996-10-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-09-27 0:00 ` Ronald Kunne
1996-09-27 0:00 ` Lawrence Foard
1996-10-04 0:00 ` @@ robin
1996-09-28 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-09-28 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-09-29 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-09-29 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-30 0:00 ` Wayne L. Beavers
1996-10-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-01 0:00 ` Wayne L. Beavers
1996-10-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-02 0:00 ` Sandy McPherson
1996-10-03 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-10-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-09-28 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-09-27 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-09-27 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-09-28 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-09-29 0:00 ` Louis K. Scheffer
1996-09-25 0:00 ` Michel OLAGNON
1996-09-25 0:00 ` Byron Kauffman
1996-09-25 0:00 ` A. Grant
1996-09-25 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-09-26 0:00 ` Byron Kauffman
1996-09-27 0:00 ` A. Grant
1996-09-26 0:00 ` Sandy McPherson
1996-09-25 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1996-09-27 0:00 ` John McCabe
1996-10-01 0:00 ` Michael Dworetsky
1996-10-04 0:00 ` Steve Bell
1996-10-07 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-10-09 0:00 ` @@ robin
1996-10-09 0:00 ` Steve O'Neill
1996-10-12 0:00 ` Alan Brain
1996-10-04 0:00 ` @@ robin
1996-10-04 0:00 ` Joseph C Williams
1996-10-06 0:00 ` Wayne Hayes
1996-10-04 0:00 ` Michel OLAGNON
1996-10-09 0:00 ` @@ robin
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Ralf Tilch
1996-10-17 0:00 ` Ravi Sundaram
1996-10-22 0:00 ` shmuel
1996-10-22 0:00 ` Jim Carr
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