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From: "Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93" <condicma@PWFL.COM>
Subject: Re: Two ideas for the next Ada Standard
Date: 1996/09/04
Date: 1996-09-04T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <96090416102641@psavax.pwfl.com> (raw)


Jon S Anthony <jsa@ALEXANDRIA.AMERICAN.EDU> writes:
>I think the problem here is that instead of learning and understanding
>the Ada model, you are simply trying to write C++ in Ada.  A recipe
>for frustration and annoyance and error if there ever was one.
>
    Years ago when Ada83 first came out, I remember the Fortran
    programmers bitching up and down because you couldn't do with
    packages the things you could do with common blocks and worrying
    about if arrays were addressed in row-major order or not. They
    wanted to write "Adatran" code and found it difficult to "get with
    the game plan." (A good Fortran programmer can write Fortran no
    matter *what* language you give him!)

    Now it's the C++ programmers having a hard time trying to write
    "Ada++" Maybe someone needs to write a "Ada for C++ programmers"
    book that does some reeducation?

    I imagine this is a common problem when switching from *any*
    language to *any other*. It's hard to convince many people that
    they need to adjust the way they think about solving the problems
    to the (dare I use the word?) paradigm imposed by the new
    language.

    MDC

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Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-09-04  0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93 [this message]
1996-09-05  0:00 ` Retraining from C++ to Ada (was Two Ideas...) Larry Kilgallen
1996-09-05  0:00   ` Laurent Guerby
1996-09-06  0:00 ` Two ideas for the next Ada Standard Jon S Anthony
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1996-09-06  0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-09-04  0:00 Bob Mathis
1996-08-31  0:00 dulman
1996-09-01  0:00 ` Two " Robert Dewar
1996-09-03  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-09-03  0:00   ` Jonas Nygren
1996-09-03  0:00     ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-09-03  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-03  0:00         ` Adam Beneschan
1996-09-03  0:00         ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-09-04  0:00           ` Two " Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-09-04  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-04  0:00         ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-09-05  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-06  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-09-06  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-10  0:00                 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-09-10  0:00                   ` Mark A Biggar
1996-09-10  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-06  0:00               ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-05  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-06  0:00             ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-09-03  0:00       ` Jonas Nygren
1996-09-03  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-04  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-04  0:00         ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-09-10  0:00       ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-09-03  0:00     ` Peter Hermann
1996-09-04  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-04  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1996-09-04  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-04  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-03  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-09-04  0:00     ` David Weller
1996-09-04  0:00     ` Joel VanLaven
1996-09-04  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-09-04  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-04  0:00   ` Jonas Nygren
1996-09-06  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1996-09-08  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-09-08  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-09  0:00         ` John G. Volan
1996-09-09  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-09-04  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-09-05  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-05  0:00     ` Mark A Biggar
1996-09-05  0:00   ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-09-06  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-09-07  0:00   ` Jonas Nygren
1996-09-08  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-09-08  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-08  0:00   ` Jon S Anthony
1996-09-01  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-05  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-09-06  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-09-06  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-09-10  0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-09-10  0:00 ` Samuel Tardieu
1996-09-11  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-08-28  0:00 Two ideas for the next Ada standard Van Snyder
1996-08-29  0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1996-08-30  0:00   ` Robert A Duff
1996-08-30  0:00     ` Adam Beneschan
1996-08-31  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1996-08-31  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-04  0:00           ` Dennison
1996-09-05  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-05  0:00               ` Dennison
1996-09-06  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-07  0:00                   ` Dennison
1996-09-07  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-06  0:00           ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-09-06  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-06  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-09  0:00               ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-09-06  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-07  0:00             ` Keith Thompson
1996-09-12  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-02  0:00         ` Geert Bosch
1996-09-02  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1996-08-30  0:00 ` Peter Hermann
1996-08-30  0:00   ` Michael F Brenner
1996-08-30  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1996-08-30  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-08-31  0:00         ` Robert A Duff
1996-08-31  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-01  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-08-31  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-01  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
1996-09-02  0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
1996-09-02  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-03  0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
1996-09-03  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-03  0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
1996-09-03  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-04  0:00     ` Adam Beneschan
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