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From: "Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93" <condicma@PWFL.COM>
Subject: Re: Ada versus PL/I (was: Re: Ariane 5 - not an exception?)
Date: 1996/09/04
Date: 1996-09-04T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <96090415434701@psavax.pwfl.com> (raw)


++ robin <rav@GOANNA.CS.RMIT.EDU.AU> writes:
>        >>      >  On the other hand, I would rather see people using PL/I for
>        >>      >  a serious project than C.  And I have heard there is an effo
>        >>      >  to release an Object-oriented version of PL/I in the near
>        >>      >  future.  That might actually make PL/I a viable alternative
>        >>      >  to C++.
>        >>
>        >> ---It already is.
>
>        >  Not unless if does not explicitly support object-oriented
>        >  programming.  And OOP kludges do not count.
>
>---we'll have to agree to disagree on that.
>
    If by this you mean that PL/I is alread a viable alternative to
    C++, you may be right. If you mean that OOP can be done in PL/I
    without the usual requisite encapsulation, polymorphism,
    inheritance, and other popular buzzwords and that this makes PL/I
    "object oriented" then there's a problem: By that standard, you
    could call an assembly language "object oriented" - in which case
    the term doesn't mean much.

    Object Oriented Programming can be done in any language - this is
    true. But that hardly makes PL/I (or Basic, or assembly language,
    or whatever) a good, or even adequate choice in which to do so.
    Heck! Even Ada83 was a pretty weak choice for OOP given that you
    had to pull some pretty ugly stunts to get some of those buzzwords
    to work as intended.

    MDC

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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-09-04  0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93 [this message]
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1996-09-05  0:00 Ada versus PL/I (was: Re: Ariane 5 - not an exception?) Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-09-04  0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-09-06  0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-07-25  0:00 Ariane 5 - not an exception? Simon Bluck
1996-07-25  0:00 ` Multiple reasons for failure of Ariane 5 (was: Re: Ariane 5 - not an exception?) Kirk Beitz
1996-07-26  0:00   ` ++           robin
1996-08-05  0:00     ` Darren C Davenport
1996-08-06  0:00       ` U32872
1996-08-07  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-08-08  0:00           ` Pascal Martin @lone
1996-08-09  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-08-10  0:00               ` dwnoon
1996-08-15  0:00                 ` Richard Riehle
1996-08-22  0:00                   ` ++           robin
1996-08-31  0:00                     ` Ada versus PL/I " Richard Riehle
1996-09-02  0:00                       ` ++           robin
1996-09-02  0:00                         ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1996-09-03  0:00                           ` ++           robin
1996-09-03  0:00                             ` Robb Nebbe
1996-09-17  0:00                             ` shmuel
1996-09-17  0:00                               ` Jay McFadyen
1996-09-18  0:00                                 ` John McCabe
1996-09-20  0:00                               ` shmuel
1996-09-03  0:00                       ` ++           robin
1996-09-04  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-07  0:00                           ` ++           robin
1996-09-03  0:00                       ` J. Kanze
1996-09-07  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-09  0:00                           ` ++           robin
1996-09-09  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1996-09-09  0:00                               ` Ken Garlington
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