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From: Bob Crispen <revbob@EIGHT-BALL.HV.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: Is the "Ada mandate" being reconsidered?
Date: 1996/06/21
Date: 1996-06-21T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9606212019.AA11075@eight-ball> (raw)


Joe Gwinn <gwinn@RES.RAY.COM> sez:

>For large-scale use, only a few vendors survive, and consolidations will
>likely continue.  The Ada market is clearly shrinking.  I submit the only
>metric that counts is aggregate revenue to the Ada compiler and tool
>vendors, as the rate of further development of Ada depends on the size of
>their food supply.  I don't have the revenue figures, but I bet someone on
>this newsgroup does, and ask that the figures from 1983 to present be
>posted.

I believe you're suggesting that we measure precisely the wrong thing.
The existence of gnat (and the phenomenally good performance of gnat
at this point in its history) has changed the marketplace.

Today compiler vendors don't have to keep a huge staff of compiler
writers on the payroll.  That means that they can focus almost all their
manpower on product differentiation (e.g., GUI builders, bindings,
support for niche platforms) and on product support.

Thus, we could see fewer dollars changing hands, but still have a very
healthy Ada environment.

Gnat has also spawned a small horde of hobbyists who'll never pay a
cent for their gnat compilers, but who may one day become a truly
significant force for Ada.  Looking at the bucks ignores every single
one of these people.

Gross revenues, like lines of source code, are easy to measure.  But
that doesn't mean they're *worth* measuring.

Bob.Crispen@boeing.com
Speaking for myself, not my company




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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-06-21  0:00 Bob Crispen [this message]
1996-06-25  0:00 ` Is the "Ada mandate" being reconsidered? Joe Gwinn
1996-06-25  0:00   ` Michael Feldman
1996-06-27  0:00     ` Joe Gwinn
1996-06-29  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-01  0:00         ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-06-27  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-27  0:00 ` Bob Crispen
1996-06-28  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-30  0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1996-06-30  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-30  0:00     ` Richard Kenner
1996-06-30  0:00 ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-07-03  0:00   ` Joe Gwinn
1996-07-08  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
1996-07-08  0:00     ` Bob Kitzberger
1996-07-10  0:00       ` Joe Gwinn
1996-07-10  0:00         ` David Emery
1996-07-11  0:00           ` Michael Feldman
1996-07-15  0:00             ` Brad Balfour
1996-07-11  0:00         ` Jim Chelini
1996-07-22  0:00           ` Joe Gwinn
1996-07-11  0:00         ` James Rhodes
1996-07-12  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-07-12  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
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1996-07-16  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
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1996-06-17  0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93
1996-06-19  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-19  0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-14  0:00 Mark Bell
1996-06-14  0:00 Mark Bell
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Kevin J. Weise
1996-06-17  0:00   ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-18  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00   ` Michael Levasseur
1996-05-08  0:00 Howard Dodson
1996-05-08  0:00 ` David Weller
1996-05-08  0:00 ` Thomas C. Timberlake
1996-05-08  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
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1996-05-10  0:00     ` Robert Munck
1996-05-13  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
1996-05-14  0:00         ` Robert Munck
1996-05-14  0:00           ` Tucker Taft
1996-05-17  0:00             ` Robert Munck
1996-05-13  0:00       ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-03  0:00 ` Roy M. Bell
1996-06-09  0:00   ` Peggy Byers
1996-06-09  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-09  0:00     ` David Weller
1996-06-10  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-10  0:00     ` James Krell
1996-06-11  0:00       ` Michael Levasseur
1996-06-12  0:00         ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-12  0:00         ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-13  0:00           ` Michael Levasseur
1996-06-14  0:00             ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-15  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-17  0:00             ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-20  0:00             ` Joe Gwinn
1996-06-25  0:00               ` Bob Kitzberger
1996-06-10  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1996-06-10  0:00     ` Paul Whittington
1996-06-11  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-11  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-12  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-12  0:00   ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-12  0:00     ` Fergus Henderson
1996-06-13  0:00       ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-13  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-13  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-18  0:00           ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-18  0:00             ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-24  0:00         ` Carl Bowman
1996-06-13  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-13  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-13  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1996-06-14  0:00       ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-13  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-21  0:00   ` Richard Riehle
1996-06-22  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
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