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From: "Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93" <condicma@PWFL.COM>
Subject: Re: Is the "Ada mandate" being reconsidered?
Date: 1996/06/17
Date: 1996-06-17T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <96061717021600@psavax.pwfl.com> (raw)


Tom Robinson <robinson@GDESYSTEMS.COM> writes:
>And, *I thought*, that the DOD was required to use validated compilers.  But
>I could be wrong on that.  But *if it does*, then in order to sell to the DOD
>companies would need to be on the validation list.  Since the list is extremely
>small when compared to Ada 83 I use it as the measure of how far along the
>Ada 95 market is today.  One measure of how successful Ada 95 is will be how
>fast that list grows in the next 12 months as the gnat and AdaMagic based
>compilers start hitting the market.
>
    So far as I know, that requirement of using a validated compiler
    is still there. It's a shame that all the positive aspects of Ada
    83 and Ada 95 haven't managed to persuade more people to use the
    language and there still seems to be a need to "mandate" its use.

    I believe that the biggest problems have been marketing and
    perception. It may not be too late to correct some of the
    perceptions, but it will take lots of effort.

    I'd suggest that those of us who produce applications in Ada start
    putting advertising hype into our applications. What if every time
    someone started that clever app of yours a screen popped up with
    not only the copywrite notice, etc. but in bold letters with lots
    of slick graphics, something to the effect of:

        This application written in Ada95: "When you care enough to
            write the very best."

    or

        This application written in Ada95: "Good to the last drop."

    or

        This application written in Ada95: "Mess with the best, die
            like the rest!"

    Whatever. You get the picture. If every time you ran an extremely
    reliable application and you noticed it was implemented in Ada95,
    you might start getting the message. (Anyone care to start a
    contest for the best "Ada95 Inside" slogan? e-mail your entries to
    me and I'll consolidate them and rebroadcast.)

    I know I have little trouble spotting the C/C++ based apps -
    they're the ones that die with mysterious segmentation violations
    or memory access errors because of abused pointers or array
    accesses that aren't range limited.

    Wouldn't quality products clearly advertising their implementation
    do a lot to persuade people that Ada is a "real" language capable
    of "serious" development and thus be worthy of consideration?

    Pax,
    Marin

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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-06-17  0:00 Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93 [this message]
1996-06-19  0:00 ` Is the "Ada mandate" being reconsidered? Jim Kingdon
1996-06-19  0:00 ` Ken Garlington
     [not found] <nhd91w250f.fsf@paralysys>
1996-07-16  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1996-06-21  0:00 Bob Crispen
1996-06-25  0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1996-06-25  0:00   ` Michael Feldman
1996-06-27  0:00     ` Joe Gwinn
1996-06-29  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1996-07-01  0:00         ` Norman H. Cohen
1996-06-27  0:00 ` Bob Crispen
1996-06-27  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-28  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-30  0:00 ` Nasser Abbasi
1996-07-03  0:00   ` Joe Gwinn
1996-07-08  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
1996-07-08  0:00     ` Bob Kitzberger
1996-07-10  0:00       ` Joe Gwinn
1996-07-10  0:00         ` David Emery
1996-07-11  0:00           ` Michael Feldman
1996-07-15  0:00             ` Brad Balfour
1996-07-11  0:00         ` James Rhodes
1996-07-11  0:00         ` Jim Chelini
1996-07-22  0:00           ` Joe Gwinn
1996-07-12  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-30  0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1996-06-30  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-30  0:00     ` Richard Kenner
1996-07-12  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-14  0:00 Mark Bell
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Kevin J. Weise
1996-06-17  0:00   ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-18  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-24  0:00   ` Michael Levasseur
1996-06-14  0:00 Mark Bell
1996-05-08  0:00 Howard Dodson
1996-05-08  0:00 ` Thomas C. Timberlake
1996-05-08  0:00 ` David Weller
1996-05-08  0:00 ` Tucker Taft
     [not found]   ` <31913863.446B9B3D@escmail.orl.mmc.com>
1996-05-10  0:00     ` Robert Munck
1996-05-13  0:00       ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-05-13  0:00       ` Ken Garlington
1996-05-14  0:00         ` Robert Munck
1996-05-14  0:00           ` Tucker Taft
1996-05-17  0:00             ` Robert Munck
1996-06-03  0:00 ` Roy M. Bell
1996-06-09  0:00   ` Peggy Byers
1996-06-09  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-09  0:00     ` David Weller
1996-06-10  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-10  0:00     ` James Krell
1996-06-11  0:00       ` Michael Levasseur
1996-06-12  0:00         ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-13  0:00           ` Michael Levasseur
1996-06-14  0:00             ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-15  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-17  0:00             ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-20  0:00             ` Joe Gwinn
1996-06-25  0:00               ` Bob Kitzberger
1996-06-12  0:00         ` Ken Garlington
1996-06-10  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1996-06-10  0:00     ` Paul Whittington
1996-06-11  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-11  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-12  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-12  0:00   ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-12  0:00     ` Fergus Henderson
1996-06-13  0:00       ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-13  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-13  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-18  0:00           ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-18  0:00             ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-06-24  0:00         ` Carl Bowman
1996-06-13  0:00     ` Tucker Taft
1996-06-14  0:00       ` Tom Robinson
1996-06-13  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-13  0:00     ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-13  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Jim Kingdon
1996-06-21  0:00   ` Richard Riehle
1996-06-22  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-06-14  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
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