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From: <U54294@uicvm.uic.edu>
Subject: Re: "Some" Ada jobs in the Chicago area
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:19:17 CST
Date: 1995-01-20T12:19:17-06:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <95020.121917U54294@uicvm.uic.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3fh1ve$gmj@esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com

In article <3fh1ve$gmj@esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com>, hartsoug@bonham.dsd.northrop.com (Hartsough Michael J.) says:
>I'm a Software Developer at Northrop-Grumman's Electronics Warfare Systems
>Division in Rolling Meadows, Illinois.
>
>Colin's message was so full of misinformation that I couldn't restrain myself
>from responding.  ;^)
>
>My job title is "Engineer Specialist". That's (I believe) one level above Sr.
>Programmer and two levels below Unit Manager 1. So I'm not even a quasi-semi-
>manager. My salary is at the low end of the scale for my position, and I make
>considerably more than 40K (like ~50% more).
>
>I started here ~2-1/2 years ago. I was living in L.A. at the time. I was given
>about 6 flights back to L.A. for my family and me, counting the actual move
>and
>closing on the L.A. house.
>
>All of my moving expenses were covered, including storing everything in a
>warehouse for 3 months while we waited for escrow to close on our new house.
>
>Northrop put me up in a nice furnished apartment, rent free for 6 months
>(I was granted a 3 month extension to the original 90 days because we were
>having trouble selling our L.A. home). A couple of the "new grads" have told
>me that they were also provided a furnished apartment, so I guess this
>relocation benefit goes all the way down to "entry level".
>
>I forget the details now, but Northrop also paid my closing costs on both
>houses, including Lawyer fees, "Points" on the new mortgage, and I believe
>the realtor's commission on the sale of my L.A. home.
>
>        Michael
>
>p.s. Ordinarily I think these disclaimers are silly, but in this case I'll
>make
>an exception. The opinions expressed above are solely my own and are not
>necessarily those of the Northrop-Grumman corporation.

Since I was the original poster for the "Some  Ada jobs in Chicago"
note, I think I'll reply to this. My reply:
Remarkable!
Something tells me that the costs incurred above were passed along to the
customer, the American taxpayer. No wonder the American military's
degree of readiness is slipping while DoD consumes $265 billion per year.
And this while defense electronics is downsizing and retooling ;) and thousands
of other private-sector programmers and engineers are losing their jobs.
I wonder what things were like in 1979-1987, during which time the DoD
budget doubled in size?
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  parent reply	other threads:[~1995-01-20 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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1995-01-13 13:42 ` "Some" Ada jobs in the Chicago area Colin James III
1995-01-17 18:23   ` Hartsough Michael J.
1995-01-19  6:15     ` henry jakala
1995-01-19  6:34     ` henry jakala
1995-01-20 18:19     ` U54294 [this message]
1995-01-22  2:36       ` David Weller
1995-01-24 20:38       ` David M. Tannen
1995-01-26 18:23         ` U54294
1995-01-26 21:21           ` David Emery
1995-01-30  4:26             ` U54294
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