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From: dmitry6243@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Parameter Modes, In In Out and Out
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 09:58:51 GMT
Date: 2001-01-09T09:58:51+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93encq$brm$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 93e4e6$ucg$1@nnrp1.deja.com

In article <93e4e6$ucg$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <93cagm$c1j$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>   dmitry6243@my-deja.com wrote:
> > It is pity that Ada 95 didn't
> > use all advantages of the concept. For instance, to have
> > multiple dispatch, or even, all types "tagged"!
>
> It is NOT "using all advantages of [a] concept" to insist that
> it be used absolutely everywhere. On the contrary, that kind of
> approach leads to a much more restrictive and less useful
> expressive power.

If you meant under the concept "to be used everywhere" the type based
distinction between things that dispatch and things that do not",
then I do insist (:-). Do you disagree?

If the concept is an ability to derive from a type, then please note
that already in Ada 83, one had an ability to derive from any type:

type XX is new X;

How could this be "restrictive"?

> As for multiple dispatch -- people can disagree -- but I think
> the designers of Ada 95 were pretty much unanimous in rejecting
> consideration of MD -- it's far too much complexity for far too
> little gain. (please note, MD /= Multiple Inheritance -- the
> two concepts are unrelated).

Yes "people" disagree (:-). IMO both MD and MI are a rigid must,
just because they are closures of the concepts of having a dispatching
parameter and of having a base type.

Single dispatch is like to have overloading involving exactly one
dedicated parameter. I am well aware of artefacts of MD. Nobody says
that MD is simple. But single dispatch is simply wrong for binary
operations. (Nice that Ada at least enforces same tag for all
dispatching parameters. In C++ the situaltion is catastrophic). It
is better not to use a thing at all than to use it incorrectly.

--
Regards,
Dmitry Kazakov


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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-09  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-06  0:11 Parameter Modes, In In Out and Out i.a.mcleod
2001-01-06  4:58 ` tmoran
2001-01-06 17:06   ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-06 19:50     ` tmoran
2001-01-06 20:31       ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07  1:59     ` John English
2001-01-07  3:51       ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-08 12:06         ` dmitry6243
2001-01-09  4:32           ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 10:05             ` dmitry6243
2001-01-09  4:35           ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09  9:58             ` dmitry6243 [this message]
2001-01-09 14:13               ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 18:29                 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-09 19:55                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-10  0:47                     ` Brian Rogoff
2001-01-10 21:50                       ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-10  9:23                     ` dmitry6243
2001-01-10 21:46                       ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 11:46                         ` dmitry6243
2001-01-11 16:48                           ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 19:52                             ` Thierry Lelegard
2001-01-11 20:10                               ` Pascal Obry
2001-01-12  8:05                                 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-12 13:31                               ` gasperon
2001-01-12 14:02                                 ` n_brunot
2001-01-12 17:26                                   ` charlet
2001-01-14 18:23                                     ` n_brunot
2001-01-14 21:05                                       ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-15  8:56                                         ` n_brunot
2001-01-12 11:05                             ` dmitry6243
2001-01-12 13:55                               ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-12 22:10                                 ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-01-13  1:13                                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-13 17:29                                 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-13 18:22                                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-13 22:32                                     ` Brian Rogoff
2001-01-14  6:02                                       ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-01-14 14:33                                         ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-14 18:14                                           ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-01-14 21:10                                             ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-14 20:45                                         ` Brian Rogoff
2001-01-14 14:23                                       ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-14 20:42                                         ` Brian Rogoff
2001-01-14 21:17                                           ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-15 20:57                                             ` Brian Rogoff
2001-01-15 16:25                                     ` dmitry6243
2001-02-02  7:06                                       ` Multiple dispatch (was " mark_lundquist
2001-02-02 13:49                                         ` dmitry6243
2001-01-16 12:22                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-01-13  4:46                           ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                           ` <93ko49$auq$1@nnrp1.deja.coOrganization: LJK Software <eiviJtYj+A7W@eisner.decus.org>
2001-01-13  6:00                             ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 21:38               ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-12  0:20                 ` John English
2001-01-12 13:57                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-12 20:34                     ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-13 18:06                       ` Brian Rogoff
2001-01-11 21:28             ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-12 12:35               ` dmitry6243
2001-01-12 21:22                 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-13  1:16                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-02-02  5:42                     ` mark_lundquist
2001-02-02 14:55                       ` Stephen Leake
2001-02-02 20:08                         ` Robert Dewar
2001-02-05 15:00                           ` Stephen Leake
2001-01-13 21:26               ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-01-11 21:24           ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-12 12:13             ` dmitry6243
2001-01-06 16:21 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-01-09 15:15   ` Thierry Lelegard
2001-01-10 21:53     ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-07 19:15 ` DuckE
2001-01-09 20:44 ` Laurent Guerby
2001-01-09 21:46   ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-10 21:57   ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-10 23:51     ` Tucker Taft
2001-01-11  4:23       ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 19:28     ` Laurent Guerby
2001-01-18 18:53 ` FAROOQATIF
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