ANN: GNAT/GPL Solaris 10: 2007-solaris-x86

ANN: GNAT/GPL Solaris 10: 2007-solaris-x86

[Simon Wright]

I've uploaded this to the GNU Ada project at SourceForge:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=12974&package_id=260618&release_id=571804

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Re: ANN: GNAT/GPL Solaris 10: 2007-solaris-x86

[Martin Krischik]

Simon Wright schrieb:

> I've uploaded this to the GNU Ada project at SourceForge:
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=12974&package_id=260618&release_id=571804

Super - but just a nitpick: We have the architecture as part of the 
package name and not as part of the version. The reason is that on 
"Browse all Files" [1] only the newest release is opened and only the 
last 3 releases are shown at all.

So if you make the architecture part of the version only the last 
released architecture is shown in full (mildly annoying) and when there 
are more then three architectures then the first released architectures 
becomes invisible (very annoying).

Martin

[1] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=12974
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Re: ANN: GNAT/GPL Solaris 10: 2007-solaris-x86

[Simon Wright]

Martin Krischik <krischik@users.sourceforge.net> writes:

> Super - but just a nitpick: We have the architecture as part of the
> package name and not as part of the version. The reason is that on
> "Browse all Files" [1] only the newest release is opened and only
> the last 3 releases are shown at all.

OK - but I don't see this policy defined anywhare? and I don't
understand the R6, R7, R8 tags?

Re: ANN: GNAT/GPL Solaris 10: 2007-solaris-x86

[Martin Krischik]

Simon Wright schrieb:
> Martin Krischik <krischik@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
> 
>> Super - but just a nitpick: We have the architecture as part of the
>> package name and not as part of the version. The reason is that on
>> "Browse all Files" [1] only the newest release is opened and only
>> the last 3 releases are shown at all.
> 
> OK - but I don't see this policy defined anywhere?

That was decided when the project was started - guess we forgot to write 
it down.

> and I don't
> understand the R6, R7, R8 tags?

Most packages deliver more then just the compiler. The R6, R7, R8 
indicate which collection of packages will work together. The need for 
such distinction comes largely from "hidden" compiler library which is 
needed to compile ASIS, GLADE and the GPS.

Sadly AdaCore claims it is not possible to create a proper library for 
use with ASIS, GLADE and the GPS. Only Ludovic has proven long ago that 
this is not true.

Martin
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Re: ANN: GNAT/GPL Solaris 10: 2007-solaris-x86

[Ludovic Brenta]

Martin Krischik wrote:
> Simon Wright schrieb:
> > Martin Krischik <krischik@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
> >
> >> Super - but just a nitpick: We have the architecture as part of the
> >> package name and not as part of the version. The reason is that on
> >> "Browse all Files" [1] only the newest release is opened and only
> >> the last 3 releases are shown at all.
> >
> > OK - but I don't see this policy defined anywhere?
>
> That was decided when the project was started - guess we forgot to write
> it down.
>
> > and I don't understand the R6, R7, R8 tags?
>
> Most packages deliver more then just the compiler. The R6, R7, R8
> indicate which collection of packages will work together. The need for
> such distinction comes largely from "hidden" compiler library which is
> needed to compile ASIS, GLADE and the GPS.

Yes but also the fact that Ada guarantees consistency of executables.
GNAT implements this by means of the ALI files which contain a
checksum of the corresponding source files. If a system.ads changes,
everything must be recompiled. Since system.ads and version.ads change
with each release of libgnat, everything must be recompiled to work
with the new libgnat. In addition, each new major release can change
the ABI.

I do have one remark: the R6, R7, R8 are necessary only because the
GNU Ada packages are not part of their target distributions; they are
add-ons. If the various GNU Ada package maintainers would join
OpenSuSE, Fedora, OpenSolaris and MinGW, it would become possible to
incorporate the packages into each release of these distributions. I'm
sure the GNU Ada packages are much more stable and functional than the
ones in the various distributions.

> Sadly AdaCore claims it is not possible to create a proper library for
> use with ASIS, GLADE and the GPS. Only Ludovic has proven long ago that
> this is not true.

:)

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Ludovic Brenta.

Re: ANN: GNAT/GPL Solaris 10: 2007-solaris-x86

[Fionn Mac Cumhaill]

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:41:06 -0800 (PST), Ludovic Brenta
<ludovic@ludovic-brenta.org> wrote:

... snip ...
>
>I do have one remark: the R6, R7, R8 are necessary only because the
>GNU Ada packages are not part of their target distributions; they are
>add-ons. If the various GNU Ada package maintainers would join
>OpenSuSE, Fedora, OpenSolaris and MinGW, it would become possible to
>incorporate the packages into each release of these distributions. I'm
>sure the GNU Ada packages are much more stable and functional than the
>ones in the various distributions.
>
... snip ...

I've been using the MinGW compilers for quite a while now, and I must
certainly agree with the comment above - The MinGW developers could
use some more Ada talent; as it is now, if I have problems with the r8
MingW (In fact I do have a problem), the MinGW crew aren't going to
supply help; there aren't enough hours in their days to unscrew
problems with stuff developed completely outside their team, and they
don't try;