From: Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com>
Subject: Re: Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: What to Do?
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 17:09:49 GMT
Date: 2001-01-04T17:09:49+00:00 [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: 3A5466DE.811D43A5@acm.org
In article <3A5466DE.811D43A5@acm.org>,
Marin David Condic <mcondic.nospam@acm.org> wrote:
> remains a lot of perception that Ada is "A Bad Thing" based on all
> sorts of misconceptions and odd preferences on the part of many
I don't think that is really an insurmountable problem, as long as we
can somehow manage to start to get them while they're young. Sure, the
old-timers around them will persist in saying C/Fortran/Whatever is far
superior, but since when did a young developer seriously listen to an
old-timer? :-)
> Personally, I'd like to see an OS that was capable of running on a
> PC, but was suitable for realtime work. (Windows is not, which has
> spawned a market for add-on products that make it usable in
> realtime.) If it came in source code and modular pieces that made
> it easy to pick and choose what you wanted for an embedded product,
> it would have an advantage in that it could run on a PC where you
> could do your development & then have an easy path to the
> embedded machine. (The sort of direction that Lynuxworks has gone in)
I'm with you on that one. Two of the last 3 projects I worked on were
attempting to do real-time work on PC hardware. I think there is a
tremendous market out there (which is why there are so many different
efforts underway already).
For me, the current great hope is HURD. They claim that if you
substitute a real-time micorkernel for the non-realtime MACH, HURD will
become a full real-time platform, without having to write special
software and/or segregate the normal software off into some non-realtime
subsystem like happens with all the NT and Linux approaches. Supposedly
there are real-time MACH's around, so it ought to be doable.
--
T.E.D.
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2000-12-31 16:09 What to Do? Petra Lynn Hofman
2000-12-31 16:58 ` Robert Dewar
2000-12-31 17:41 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-01 15:24 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-01 17:18 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 15:05 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-01 17:54 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 15:14 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-01 21:22 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-01 15:15 ` Marin David Condic
2000-12-31 18:06 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-12-31 21:07 ` tmoran
2001-01-01 16:10 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-01 17:08 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-01-01 17:53 ` Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: " Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-01-01 18:29 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-01 20:25 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 19:03 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 20:22 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 22:23 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-02 22:27 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-01 20:26 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 19:05 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 20:24 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-02 22:53 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-03 18:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-01-03 19:22 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-04 1:18 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-01 19:28 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-01-02 14:56 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-03 3:32 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-01-04 1:02 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-04 3:53 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-01-04 12:04 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-04 13:48 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-01-06 20:23 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-04 17:09 ` Ted Dennison [this message]
2001-01-04 20:30 ` Kevin Rigotti
2001-01-05 9:15 ` n_brunot
2001-01-05 9:57 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2001-01-05 10:41 ` n_brunot
2001-01-05 13:41 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-05 14:15 ` n_brunot
2001-01-06 17:17 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-08 8:51 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 4:00 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 10:20 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 12:34 ` Karel Thoenissen
2001-01-09 14:18 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 15:29 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-01-09 19:25 ` tmoran
2001-01-09 20:11 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-09 14:20 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-10 2:08 ` Keith Thompson
[not found] ` <93e2d1$spv$1@ <3A5B054B.3CF03325@hello.nl>
2001-01-09 22:05 ` Simon Wright
2001-01-05 15:35 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-01-05 19:20 ` Object naming conventions (was: Do we need "Mission-Critical" software?) Kevin Rigotti
2001-01-06 17:30 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-06 17:24 ` Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: What to Do? Robert Dewar
2001-01-08 9:14 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 0:28 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-09 8:35 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-10 2:21 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-09 2:34 ` DuckE
2001-01-09 4:12 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 9:12 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 12:24 ` David Gillon
2001-01-09 12:58 ` Marc A. Criley
2001-01-09 13:42 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-09 14:00 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-12 0:21 ` Larry J. Elmore
2001-01-12 1:24 ` Al Christians
2001-01-12 5:19 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-12 18:05 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-09 14:27 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 15:15 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 19:41 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 20:44 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-10 12:22 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-10 13:49 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-10 20:41 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 23:04 ` tmoran
2001-01-27 16:58 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2001-01-10 16:37 ` Jerry Petrey
2001-01-10 19:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-01-11 1:43 ` Frank Manning
2001-01-09 16:12 ` n_brunot
2001-01-09 19:48 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 20:43 ` Britt Snodgrass
2001-01-10 20:43 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 13:41 ` JOVIAL (was Do we need "Mission-Critical" software?) Ken Garlington
2001-01-12 15:32 ` carr_tom
2001-01-12 16:58 ` Ira D. Baxter
2001-01-22 23:18 ` jls
2001-01-13 14:20 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-10 10:41 ` Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: What to Do? David Kristola
2001-01-10 13:44 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-10 21:39 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-10 11:47 ` n_brunot
2001-01-10 12:25 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-10 21:36 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 10:00 ` n_brunot
2001-01-12 0:42 ` Larry J. Elmore
2001-01-12 1:47 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-12 16:05 ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-01-16 19:52 ` Do we need any Dewar-bashing? Wes Groleau
2001-01-09 19:03 ` Do we need "Mission-Critical" software? Was: What to Do? dmitry6243
2001-01-09 19:51 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-09 20:46 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-09 21:57 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-01-10 8:55 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-10 13:39 ` Pascal Obry
2001-01-11 8:58 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-11 21:01 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-12 11:41 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-12 20:29 ` Subprogram types vs. "limited access" (was " mark_lundquist
2001-01-12 21:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2001-01-13 1:35 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-13 1:20 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-13 17:29 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-15 21:06 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-16 0:32 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-16 2:57 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-16 5:47 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-16 17:47 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-16 9:12 ` dmitry6243
2001-01-16 20:04 ` Wes Groleau
2001-02-02 6:45 ` Java packages (was " mark_lundquist
2001-01-15 20:04 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-15 20:28 ` Jerry Petrey
2001-01-15 21:05 ` tmoran
2001-01-16 0:36 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-16 13:23 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-15 21:44 ` Tucker Taft
2001-01-15 22:26 ` BSCrawford
2001-01-23 2:19 ` Lao Xiao Hai
[not found] ` <94kkme$amg$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
2001-01-26 20:43 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-27 9:36 ` David Kristola
2001-01-27 21:54 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-27 23:09 ` Pat Rogers
2001-01-28 22:30 ` Ken Garlington
2001-01-09 13:37 ` Marin David Condic
2001-01-12 1:11 ` Larry J. Elmore
2001-01-09 14:52 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-01-10 10:26 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-10 21:43 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-11 18:51 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-11 20:11 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-12 11:49 ` Kevin Rigotti
2001-01-12 19:19 ` mark_lundquist
2001-01-16 20:20 ` Wes Groleau
2001-01-04 16:48 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-05 13:15 ` Cesar Scarpini Rabak
2001-01-06 20:19 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-01 21:37 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-01 21:44 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-01-03 4:00 ` William Starner
2001-01-01 23:44 ` David Kristola
2001-01-02 0:41 ` Brian Rogoff
2001-01-02 3:14 ` tmoran
2001-01-02 20:35 ` David Kristola
2001-01-02 22:56 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 7:38 ` Ehud Lamm
2001-01-02 15:08 ` Ted Dennison
2001-01-02 20:59 ` What to Do? Silly Valley JF Harrison
2001-01-02 23:22 ` William Dale
2001-01-06 20:45 ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-01-08 18:15 ` William Dale
2001-01-08 19:00 ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-08 19:01 ` Florian Weimer
2000-12-31 21:47 ` What to Do? Robert Love
2001-01-01 21:31 ` Robert Love
2001-01-10 22:06 ` km0762
2001-01-10 22:06 ` km0762
2001-01-11 0:00 ` James Rogers
2001-01-11 1:03 ` Al Christians
2001-01-29 16:09 ` spider_templar2
2001-01-11 13:57 ` John English
2001-01-11 18:00 ` William Dale
2001-01-12 0:27 ` John English
2001-01-12 2:57 ` David Botton
2001-01-13 3:34 ` Petra Lynn Hofman
2001-01-13 6:05 ` Robert Dewar
2001-01-13 13:52 ` Ken Garlington
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