From: rgardner@nyx.net (Ray Gardner)
Subject: Re: Software landmines (loops)
Date: 1998/09/05
Date: 1998-09-05T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <905028596.876380@iris.nyx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 35ece7ee.1489912@news.erols.com
Ell wrote:
> >>For example, there's a pernicious myth that exiting (or returning) from
> >>the middle of a loop is bad, and that the only proper way to write a
> >>loop is to state the termination condition explicitly, as a predicate
> >>appearing at the top of the loop.
>
> >Yes. That pernicious myth is called "structured programming".
>
> Please cite even just a single structured programming text, or founder
> where what you say here was asserted.
And later Ell wrote:
> The assertion that "single entry, single exit" is a required, or even
> desirable, maxim of structured programming is a myth.
>
> No one (including RCM) can show that this maxim is in fact a coding
> heuristic put forward by any of the founders of the structured
> paradigm. [Check past posts in this thread.]
RCM had responded with a direct quote from Dijkstra, but Ell
rejected it without understanding it. And rejected it again
after RCM explained it.
To recap, in Dijkstra's Notes on Structured Programming in the
classic _Structured Programming_ (1972), EWD referred to the
single-entry/single-exit property of the flowcharts of the if-
then-else, case-of, while-do, and repeat-until control
structures. Ell apparently thought EWD was talking about how
flowcharts should be represented on a page. EWD was actually
using the flowcharts as a graphical aid to make a point about
program topology.
To support this interpretation, I'll just quote this from the
same source, p. 20:
"... restricting ourselves to the three mentioned types of
decomposition lead to flowcharts of a restricted topology compared
with the flowcharts one can make when arrows can be drawn from
any block leading into any other."
EWD then goes on at length to explain why such a topology is
desireable.
Ell, you might consider this: in the entire monograph EWD
never mentions goto, exit, break, return or any other change in
the flow of control outside of the selection and repetition
statements mentioned above. And he certainly had no such other
modes of flow control in mind when he wrote his "GOTO considered
harmful" letter; he was accustomed to Algol, which has no
exit/break/return or similar statements. (Also consider that
goto-less programming in Pascal has the same restriction, since
Pascal lacks exit/break/return etc.)
Ell, remember that you asked for a cite from "even a single
structured programming text, or founder" to support single-
entry/single-exit. Okay. Hard to say who you can consider "a"
founder other than "the" founder, EWD. But consider Niklaus
Wirth: "For the intellectual manageability, it is crucial that
the constituent operations at each level of abstraction are
connected according to sufficiently simple, well understood
_program schemas_, and that each operation is described as a
piece of program with _one starting point_ and a _single
terminating point_." [Emphases were italics in the original.]
"On the Composition of Well-Structured Programs", N. Wirth, in
ACM Computing Surveys, December 1974 (Special Issue on
Programming), p.249.
How about this: "A _proper program_ is a program with a control
structure that (1.) has a single entry line and a single exit
line, and (2.) for each node, has a path through that node from
the entry line to the exit line." _Structured Programming:
Theory and Practice, R.C. Linger, H.D. Mills, B.I. Witt, Addison-
Wesley, 1979, p. 94. (Ell has already commented on a similar use
of the word "proper". Ell, you should understand that the word
is being used here in a technical fashion as part of a
*definition*, similar to the use of "well-formed formula" in
mathematical logic. And, anticipating that you'll claim that
this has nothing to do with structured programming per se, I'll
point out that the entire book is about programming via the use
of "proper programs" as defined above.)
Since you mentioned structured COBOL, I'll mention this:
"GO TO statements are not allowed. The rationale here is to
force programmers to think ahead and use _only_ 1-in, 1-out
control structures." ... "STOP RUN may only occur as the last
statement of the main procedure of a program. EXIT PROGRAM may
only occur as the last paragraph of the main procedure of a
subprogram. The rationale here is to make the logical exit of a
program identical to the lexical end of its main procedure."
_COBOL With Style (Programming Proverbs)_, L.J. Chmura, H.F.
Ledgard, Hayden, 1976. A book on structured programming in
COBOL.
Many other writers have discussed structured programming in terms
of single-entry/single-exit control structures, often without
using those terms explicitly. But what else could they mean when
they develop a programming style that uses only sequence,
if-then-else, while-do, repeat-until, and sometimes case-of,
without ever mentioning or using goto, return, break, exit,
continue, or any other discontinuity of control?
For an even heavier dose of Dijkstra, try his _A Discipline of
Programming_ (Prentice-Hall, 1976) where he develops a fairly
complete theory of proof-oriented _nondeterministic_ procedural
programming semantics using only assignment and "guarded
commands" for conditional and repetitive (if ... fi and do ...
od) statements. He never explicitly mentions "single-
entry/single-exit", but it's clear from his exposition that
there is no other form of flow control in his system.
You mentioned (twice) page 72 of Knuth's _Literate Programming_
(not _The Art of ... as you've twice mis-cited it, and the
publisher is CSLI, not CLSC or CLCS as you've twice misnamed
them). This page is part of a reprint of Knuth's classic paper
"Structured Programming with go to Statements", originally in ACM
Computing Surveys, December 1974. You might consider what Knuth
said on p. 18 of your book: "It is impossible to read the recent
book _Structured Programming_ [Dahl (not Dahle), Dijkstra, and
Hoare] without having it change your life." And then take RCM's
advice and read the book. Perhaps that's what it'll take to get
you to believe that Dijkstra was advocating exactly what RCM said
he was. (You won't do it because you might find RCM is right.)
BTW, while it's true that Dijkstra considered abstraction to be
central to his notion of structured programming, page 72 of
Knuth's book nowhere says "It was Dijkstra who thinks of
*abstraction* when someone mentions 'structured programming'."
It does quote Dijkstra as saying that when he's dealing with one
level of abstraction, it occupies 90% of his attention while the
rest is kept in mind in the background. Yes, abstraction is key
to Dijkstra's notion of structured programming. But so is the
use of the limited set of control structures mentioned above, and
so is his oft-mentioned "separation of concerns".
I've been doing this long enough (30 years) to remember when this
stuff was new, and I have many of the original books and papers
in my library. I also had the personal experience of bringing
structured programming into a COBOL spaghetti shop in 1974. So
I do know a little about this stuff. I'm not saying structured
programming is only about control structures. And I'm not saying
that no one has tried "enhancing" the original idea of structured
programming with additional control structures. Wulf, Zahn,
Dahl, Knuth and others have suggested other forms of loops. But
the original idea, as expounded by Dijkstra, Mills, Wirth,
Ledgard, and others does indeed restrict you to single-
entry/single-exit control structures, and they don't exit loops
in the middle.
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1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
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1998-09-17 0:00 ` [WAYRTW?] (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Zane Lewkowicz
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-18 0:00 ` L. Darrell Ray
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-03 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Mike Spille
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Mike Spille
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Mike Spille
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Moderators for life (was: Re: Software landmines) Martijn Meijering
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Moderators for life Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Ray Blaak
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
[not found] ` <EyyLos.2nx@yc.estec.esa.nl>
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-08 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-08 0:00 ` duncan
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-09 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
[not found] ` <6skqf3$ <35F0B5B0.8E2D0166@s054.aone.net.au>
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Will Rose
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-02 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` john-clonts
1998-09-03 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Oliver
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Oliver
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` john-clonts
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Darren New
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Ray Gardner [this message]
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-07 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Adrian P. Morgan
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-10 0:00 ` mfinney
[not found] ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-1609981736190001@dialup47.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-17 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-07 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
[not found] ` <m31zpq4pim.fsf@mheaney.ni.ne <m3af36wtwh.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-10-11 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Phil Goodwin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Elliot's paranoia (was something relevent once, but no longer) Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Biju Thomas
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
[not found] ` <35F074C9.E10C <35F2E907.594CD023@earthlink.net>
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-10 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-11 0:00 ` prochak
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-12 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-13 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-14 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Module size (was Re: Software landmines) Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Martin Tom Brown
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Christopher P. Gariepy
1998-09-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Emtpy procedures (was Re: Module size (was Re: Software landmines)) Jim Cochrane
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Module size (was Re: Software landmines) Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Types vs classes (was Re: Module size (was Re: Software landmines)) Pat Rogers
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Juergen Schlegelmilch
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Juergen Schlegelmilch
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Module size (was Re: Software landmines) Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Ken Carpenter
1998-09-08 0:00 ` James Weirich
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Chris Kuan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Chris Kuan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` dennison
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Dan Higdon
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Mid-Loop 'Until' Proposal [was: Software landmines (loops)] John G. Volan
[not found] ` <Q7UH1.3152$re2.302134@news.giganews.com>
[not found] ` <35F2E055.6922B7EC@earthlink.net>
1998-09-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` adam
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Martin Tom Brown
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-08 0:00 ` adam
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
[not found] ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-1609980034390001@dialup26.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-16 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-16 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Rick Smith
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-09-17 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-18 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-10 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1998-10-13 0:00 ` last.first
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Brian Mueller
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Arun Mangalam
1998-10-23 0:00 ` DPH
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Michael Stark
1998-10-23 0:00 ` midlamD
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-23 0:00 ` College, C, etc. (Was Re: Is there a language that Dijkstra liked?) Darren New
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Tom J
1998-10-23 0:00 ` K. Mathias
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1998-10-25 0:00 ` College, C, etc Frank Sergeant
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Darren New
1998-10-29 0:00 ` Graham Perkins
1998-10-29 0:00 ` Paul A. Howes
1998-10-30 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-10-30 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-29 0:00 ` Arun Mangalam
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Dave Wood
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Dale Stanbrough
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1998-10-24 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Bill Ghrist
1998-10-27 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-27 0:00 ` dewarr
[not found] ` <3 <slrn73ifd1.8ip.jdege@jdege.visi.com>
1998-10-30 0:00 ` College, C, etc Tom J
1998-10-23 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Gautier.DeMontmollin
1998-10-11 0:00 ` Bertrand Meyer
1998-10-12 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-12 0:00 ` Rod Chapman
1998-10-13 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-09-17 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-17 0:00 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1998-09-21 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? Peter Hermann
1998-09-21 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-21 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) bengt
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Gerry Quinn
1998-09-17 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Robert C. Martin
1998-09-19 0:00 ` Rick Smith
1998-09-19 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-21 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-19 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-19 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-17 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-11 0:00 ` spaghetti code(was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Joe Chacko
[not found] ` <01bddfb7$f3eac320$ca3aea9e@tom>
1998-09-15 0:00 ` prochak
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Malcolm Steel
[not found] ` <o1fH1.543$495.1 <gwinn-0309982042490001@d8.dial-4.cmb.ma.ultra.net>
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Ell
1998-09-05 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1998-09-09 0:00 ` sureshvv
1998-09-10 0:00 ` prochak
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
[not found] ` <01bddccc$98b2dda0$ca3aea9e@tom>
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-11 0:00 ` alan walkington
1998-09-12 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Linguistic invention (was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Ell
1998-10-09 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: " Gautier.DeMontmollin
[not found] ` <6sjnlu$83l$1@hirame.wwa.c <35EE5F67.80D@gecm.com>
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Rick Smith
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02 0:00 ` adam
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Phil Goodwin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` adam
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Mike Spille
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Richard MacDonald
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
[not found] ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-0309982311220001@dialup62.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Gene Gajewski
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Expressive Case Statements (was: Software landmines) Fergus Henderson
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Jonas M�ls�
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <6t6l4n$rep@jbm.nada.kth.se>
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
[not found] ` <m3ogt3qgca.fsf@mheaney.ni.n <1dghyt5.oik1lzhxzf2N@n207167116176.inetworld.net>
1998-10-10 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-10-12 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-10-13 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-14 0:00 ` Graham Perkins
1998-10-15 0:00 ` Reimer Behrends
1998-10-15 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-10-15 0:00 ` Indicators of program quality? (was Re: Software landmines) Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) Dan Higdon
[not found] ` <m33eagru5g.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Frank Adrian
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Biju Thomas
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02 0:00 ` dennison
1998-09-01 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Jonathan Guthrie
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Structured programming (Re: Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful)) Darren New
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Gene Gajewski
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) Ell
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Larry Brasfield
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Phlip
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Larry Brasfield
[not found] ` <DOSXjHE9T6DM9Jw9nAyaPxfz@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>
1998-08-22 0:00 ` dewar
1998-08-24 0:00 ` dennison
1998-08-28 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-28 0:00 ` dennison
1998-08-30 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-06 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-24 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-24 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-24 0:00 ` Mark A Biggar
1998-08-25 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-25 0:00 ` Mark A Biggar
1998-08-26 0:00 ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-25 0:00 ` adam
1998-09-22 0:00 ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Bob Collins
1998-08-21 0:00 ` John Goodsen
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-21 0:00 ` Ell
[not found] ` <l5HC1.6840$wN.18 <35F238F7.F57D3EC7@earthlink.net>
1998-09-06 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Patrick Doyle
1998-10-21 0:00 ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Van Snyder
1998-10-22 0:00 ` biocyn
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1998-10-26 0:00 ` dennison
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1998-10-26 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-27 0:00 ` dennison
1998-10-27 0:00 ` bill
1998-10-27 0:00 ` Dave Wood
1998-10-28 0:00 ` norm
1998-10-27 0:00 ` dewarr
1998-10-27 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1998-11-04 0:00 ` business for students Domenico Bisignano
1998-08-20 0:00 ` Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) Gerry Quinn
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1998-08-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-11 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful stilcom
1998-08-11 0:00 ` Microsoft Authors [was Re: Why C++ is successful] john-clonts
1998-08-11 0:00 ` dennison
1998-08-11 0:00 ` John Weiss
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Code Complete (Was: Re: Why C++ is successful) Chris Kuan
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Andrew Koenig
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Stefan Tilkov
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <m31zpxqutn.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-08-31 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Jim Cochrane
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Richard Melvin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35EC1590.D50DB8F6@tisny.com>
1998-09-01 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <6sjms6$7c4$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03 0:00 ` mfinney
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <6shhg4$llp$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <m3zpck79xp.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-09-02 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <6shunm$47g$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-02 0:00 ` David E. Wallace
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35EDC648.76F03F32@draper.com>
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Tim McDermott
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Tim McDermott
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Reimer Behrends
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-18 0:00 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-04 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Martin Tom Brown
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <904556531. <m3lno372be.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-03 0:00 ` Patrick Doyle
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35EC937F.94420C51@ibm.net>
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner
[not found] ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35F09429.1A7CD250@easystreet.com>
1998-09-07 0:00 ` Expressive Case Statements (was: Software landmines) Michael F Brenner
[not found] ` <35f51e53.480<904556531.666222@ <6t42kg$son$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Software landmines (loops) Patrick Doyle
[not found] ` <35f51e53.480 <904556531.66622 <EyyLos.2nx@yc.estec.esa.nl>
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-09 0:00 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-10 0:00 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-09 0:00 ` duncan
1998-09-11 0:00 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-11 0:00 ` duncan
1998-09-08 0:00 ` duncan
1998-09-16 0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Reimer Behrends
1998-09-17 0:00 ` Ell
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Dale Stanbrough
1998-08-07 0:00 ` Jason Stokes
1998-08-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-10 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-11 0:00 ` n
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful? Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-12 0:00 ` Joe Gwinn
1998-08-13 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-14 0:00 ` nasser
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1998-08-17 0:00 ` asilvant
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Bob Munck
1998-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-17 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-13 0:00 ` Bob Munck
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Why C++ is successful Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <35D455AC.9225EAA7@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-08-14 0:00 ` Robert L. Spooner
1998-08-10 0:00 ` Darren New
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1998-09-07 0:00 Software landmines (loops) Robert Martin
1998-09-08 0:00 ` Mike Spille
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