Re: Where is the Ada for LINUX Team site?

[Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com>]

In article <8vcjtb$ees$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <8vbhu4$fqh$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Ted Dennison <dennison@telepath.com> asked about the
> location of the discussion thread.
>
> The thread in question is "Why not gnat Ada in gcc?" and
> the list is gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/.

Ahhh. So it wasn't "the main gnu list", but rather the main gcc list.
Not precicely a list I'd expect a RPM packager to subscribe to, unless
they are in the habit of subscribing to random lists out of paranoia.

> The entire relevant discussion is in this list. The confusion
> apparently arose because Juergen was not following this list,
> but got concerned when someone sent him some out of context
> messages.

I read through the thread, and I certianly saw no mention of ACT
planning to start making their own RPMs. There was one message in
particular ( http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2000-11/msg00259.html ) that,
taken out of context, could lead one to believe that though. Perhaps
that's what happened.

There were several messages in there from RMS marvelling that there
would be a need for a separate group to support the Gnu Ada compiler on
GNU/Linux platforms. But all of the messages I saw from ACT personel
were *defending* that group's (ALT) right and need to exist.

> The ironic thing is that the actual dynamics was complaints
> from Richard Stallman about ACT's behavior. He was concerned
> that NOT providing RPM's meant we were not doing our job :-)

It looked to me more like RMS just didn't know that RPM's were ALT's
focus, and thought (probably due to their name) that they might be a
group created to make the GNU Ada compiler workable on GNU/Linux
systems. Once RPMs were mentioned, his position seemed to be that they
(RPM's) aren't really an issue he cares about, and in any event Debian
packages should be supported by GNU projects before RPMs are.

However, there were some side grumblings in there about how ALT was
originally supposed to be doing much more. (perhaps even maintaining the
GNAT source tree?). It certianly looks like there has been some extra
discord between ALT and ACT that wasn't explictly talked about much. I
have to wonder if some of Jurgen's problems aren't related to that, with
the RPM thing (misunderstanding?) just being the "final straw"...

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