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From: mjsilva@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Ada student homework ?
Date: 2000/11/10
Date: 2000-11-10T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8uhi3b$fk3$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3A0B68EF.A06B276D@ix.netcom.com

In article <3A0B68EF.A06B276D@ix.netcom.com>,
  Lao Xiao Hai <laoxhai@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> I am currently watching with amusement as hordes of otherwise
intelligent
> programmers are forced to learn C++, when Ada is already in place.
One
> prominent member of the DoD software community said to me
recently, "We have
> all this legacy Ada code that we need to port to Java technology."
He is
> making his decision on the recommendation of someone who, in my
opinion,
> is not experienced enough in Ada or C++ to make such a judgement.
Another
> said, "In my last command they told me that Ada was pretty much dead
since
> the mandate went away."
>
> Meanwhile, C++, a language which can best be characterized as "its own
> virus,"  is being stuffed down the intellectual maw of a lot of
programmers
> who already know Ada 83 and need only to be updated on the technology
> of the current standard.   Transitioning good Ada to C++ is so silly
that it
> defies belief.
>
> The result will be more incidents such as the USS Yorktown, dead in
the water
> from a software flaw originating in code written in C.    I find it
scary that we
> plan to send our young men into battle depending on software created
with the
> most error-prone programming language ever invented. Who will take
the final
> responsibility for this folly once the finger-pointing begins?

As someone looking at all this from the outside I am just amazed.
Moving critical projects from one of the safest languages available to
some of the most unsafe languages is progress?!  There are plenty of
warnings in e.g. NASA's and DoD's own literature against using these
unsafe languages in critical work, but the march goes on.  Is anybody
minding the store?  Are we heading for another critical-systems
software crisis as these systems get delivered, modified and variously
hammered on?

Mike


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Thread overview: 164+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-03 14:42 if statements sc297
2000-11-03  0:00 ` David Starner
2000-11-07  0:00   ` John English
2000-11-13  0:00   ` Dale Pontius
2000-11-03 16:09 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-03  0:00   ` tmoran
2000-11-03  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-06  0:00       ` Brian Orpin
2000-11-03  0:00     ` David Starner
2000-11-05  0:00       ` tmoran
2000-11-06  0:00         ` David Starner
2000-11-08  0:14           ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2000-11-08  0:00             ` Alejandro Villanueva
2000-11-08  0:00               ` Georg Bauhaus
2000-11-09  3:50               ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-07  0:00         ` John English
2000-11-07  0:00     ` John English
2000-11-08  5:22       ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-06  0:00 ` Daniel Allex
2000-11-07  0:00   ` Wes Groleau
2000-11-08  0:00     ` John English
2000-11-08  0:00       ` Wes Groleau
2000-11-09  3:43         ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-07  0:00   ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-07  0:00     ` John English
2000-11-07  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-08  0:00         ` John English
2000-11-08  0:00           ` Georg Bauhaus
2000-11-09  4:58           ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-09  0:00             ` John English
2000-11-09  0:00             ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-09  0:00               ` Designing test suites (was: if statements) Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-08  5:29       ` if statements Ken Garlington
2000-11-08  0:00         ` John English
2000-11-08  0:00           ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-07  0:00   ` John English
2000-11-07  0:00   ` dmitry6243
2000-11-07  0:00     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-11-08  0:00       ` dmitry6243
2000-11-07  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-07  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-08  0:00     ` Ada student homework ? Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-08  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-08  0:00         ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-08  0:00           ` Chad R. Meiners
2000-11-08  0:00             ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-09  5:11               ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-18  0:00               ` John Magness
2000-11-08  0:00           ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-11-09  0:00             ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-09  0:00               ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-11-10  0:00                 ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-10  0:00                   ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-10  0:00                     ` Randy Brukardt
2000-11-11  0:00                       ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-15  0:00                         ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-11-18  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-18  0:00                             ` tmoran
2000-11-19  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-19  0:00                                 ` tmoran
2000-11-19  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-20  0:16                                     ` tmoran
2000-11-20  0:00                                       ` Portability accross compilers Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-20  0:00                                         ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-20  3:18                                       ` Ada student homework ? Robert Dewar
2000-11-20  5:55                                         ` tmoran
2000-11-20  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-20  0:00                                 ` Wes Groleau
2000-11-19  0:00                             ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-11-10  0:00                     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-11-10  0:00                     ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-10  0:00                       ` David Starner
2000-11-11  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-13  0:00                         ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-11  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-13  0:00                     ` gdemont
2000-11-10  0:00                 ` mjsilva [this message]
2000-11-10  0:00                 ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-10  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-10  0:00                     ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-10  0:00                       ` Dan Nagle
2000-11-10  0:00                         ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-10  0:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-10  0:00                             ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-11  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-12  6:54                                 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-11-12  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-11  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-13  0:00                             ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-13  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-13  0:00                                 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-13  0:00                                 ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-13  0:00                                   ` Pascal Obry
2000-11-13  0:00                                 ` gdemont
2000-11-13  0:00                                   ` Ada student homework ?[OS/2 Comments] tjerick
2000-11-14  0:00                                   ` Ada student homework ? Georg Bauhaus
2000-11-14  5:16                                   ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-14  0:00                                     ` John English
2000-11-14  0:00                                       ` gdemont
2000-11-14  0:00                                       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-11-14  0:00                                     ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-15  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-15  0:00                                         ` Ada student homework ? I give up Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-15  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-13  0:00                                 ` Ada student homework ? gdemont
2000-11-14  0:00                                 ` dmitry6243
2000-11-15  0:00                             ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                             ` <3A0FCBAD.824095C6@cadwin.cOrganization: LJK Software <5E93Ivxu6GwO@eisner.decus.org>
2000-11-18  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-20  0:00                     ` Wes Groleau
2000-11-20  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-08  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
2000-11-09  0:00             ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-09  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-10  0:08                 ` Ehud Lamm
2000-11-10  0:00               ` Brian Rogoff
2000-11-09  5:04           ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-10  0:27             ` Subsetting Ada Ted Dennison
2000-11-08  0:00       ` Ada student homework ? Robert Dewar
2000-11-08  0:00         ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-08  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-08  0:00             ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-11-08  0:00             ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-08  0:00               ` Jerry Petrey
2000-11-09  0:00             ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-10  2:15               ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-10  0:00                 ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-18  0:00               ` John Magness
2000-11-19  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-19  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-20  0:00                 ` John English
     [not found]                 ` <3A2827A9.B54C260@ebox.tninet.se>
     [not found]                   ` <1dtW5.25958$6W1.1458704@news.flash.net>
2000-12-12 20:52                     ` Stefan Skoglund
     [not found]                       ` <dKo%5.144$PE5.16970@read2.inet.fi>
2000-12-19 16:36                         ` election chit-chat (was Re: Ada student homework ?) Robert Dewar
2000-11-08  0:00           ` Ada student homework ? Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-08  0:00             ` Nicolas Brunot
2000-11-14  0:00               ` Ronald Cole
2000-11-08  0:00     ` if statements Alejandro Villanueva
2000-11-08  0:00       ` Daniel Allex
2000-11-09  3:54       ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-09  5:24       ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-09  0:00         ` Marin David Condic
2000-11-09  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-10  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-10  1:58           ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-10  3:53             ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-09  0:00         ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-09  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-10  0:12             ` Ehud Lamm
2000-11-10  2:09             ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-20  0:00               ` Wes Groleau
2000-11-20  0:00             ` Wes Groleau
2000-11-21  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-22  0:00                 ` Wes Groleau
2000-11-09  0:00         ` constants v variables (was Re: if statements) Martin Dowie
2000-11-09  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-09  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
2000-11-09  0:00             ` Martin Dowie
2000-11-09  0:00             ` Florian Weimer
2000-11-10  2:13               ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-10  5:59                 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-11-09  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-07  0:00 ` if statements John English
2000-11-07  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
2000-11-10  6:09 ` DJack143
2000-11-11  0:00   ` Here we go again (Was: if statements) Frank Christiny
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